Throw away your trousers

blissed · 05-02-12 00:10:22

Trousers are about 200 years old so the previous thousands of years men wore skirts. So why not now. why not have some other really comfortable garment options especially in the summer.

There's the arabian thawb

Then knee length or shorter there's the tunic or kilt or toga

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Then going shorter there's the loin cloth.

Isn't the ultra conservative fashion of men only wearing trousers or shorts rather boring. ( all the clothing options I wear were around pretty much exactly as they are now in the 1950's) and means hetro men are set up as sexual spectators and women are set up as the desired with a troubling and unhealthy degree of focus and pressure on how they look, when really desire runs both ways in equal amounts, and everyone having a full range of garment options would be much healthier for gender orientation, and I think create a space for more ambiguous gender IDs without it being a huge deal.

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ashmedi2 · 05-02-12 00:36:12

I think pants were invented for 2 reasons ... You can't ride a horse in a dress ... and you lose mobility in a fight or war ...

blissed · 05-02-12 02:28:36

Good point about horse riding. In the med the Romans wore a short tunic to ride horses and you can ride a horse in the toga above. But in the cold you'd need either a heavy kilt and knee length socks or breeches, which is where trousers come in I think.

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viva · 06-02-12 00:15:44

I like boys in pants and skirts. When Solo Boy Editor wears a skirt, the whole office feels happy. When I see a boy in the skirt on the tram, I get soooo excited.

Liandra_Dahl · 06-02-12 09:31:15

Yeah I agree. There is something about a man in skirt only (not in full drag) that really really excites me. I love drag queens but it's not sexually arousing to me, however a guy in a skirt...now that is. I think it's why I studied Ancient Greece and Rome... lots of men in skirts to fantasise about.

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blissed · 06-02-12 23:07:46

There are men who are going to womens shops and buying and wearing womens skirts, that's fine but skirts are designed very subtly different from a kilt which is the male version. To illustrate what I mean womens knickers and male underpants are exactly the same garment option but with often very obvious ( to us) design differences. I think this video is really good at aclimatizing people to the kilt and (with a lady in the show) how different it is from the skirt, yet how it represents the same sexual opportunity to androsexuals as the skirt does to gynosexuals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqxwQJM8-sA

That we need this difference I think is largely the result of our fucked up gender childhood http://shop.mattel.com/category/index.j … Id=4213484

We've actually gone right through that barrier with hair which has a full range of options for both sexes with out us panicking about who is female and who is male. Our society and subconsioius totally accepted it decades ago.

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viva · 07-02-12 01:12:18

I don't know how I feel about kilts. I guess they seem heavy and stiff, I hate plaid, and I'm not a big fan of the point they tend to hit on men's legs - somewhere between the knee and the upper calf. Most girls don't even look good in a girl-version of a kilt. They don't generally look flattering unless you look like those guys in the video in which case you could wear tinfoil and mattress ticking and still look pretty alright... well except when they strart getting really beefy... that's just odd.

Anyway, most men I know do not share the body types of those male models, and would be engulfed by those heavy things. Maybe a kilt made of light material, but then I would call it a wrap skirt. And everyone looks nice in a wrap skirt.

Here are some boys I think look hot in their skirts.
The metro maxi look

Possibly considered a kilt. Pink shirt win.

I don't know about those pants, but basically if this outfit was walking down the street on a man's body I'd have a seizure before he even passed by me.

yeah.

Damn straight. (no pun intended yo)

Here's a whole fashion show that just goes everywhere. Pretty pink skirts and huge monster quarterback shoulders, anyone? Don't miss page 2. I especially like a man in an A-line maxi skirt, and I love all that nice male midriff. Fantastic.

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blissed · 07-02-12 01:47:04

Yeah I think the butch references are needed for an initial mainstream acceptence of male skirts becuse the mainstream are so badly effected by us teaching children strict gender polarity. I think male skirts wil be the generation gap of the early 21st century and a sign we're moving into this century not reviving the old one. This happened in the 20th century. It wasn't until 1912-20 that the 20th century took shape and solidified in the 1920s. Bring on the male skirts, fluid robots, printed possessions and emotionally lucid self aware software agents!!!!

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mapplehorses · 03-03-12 10:45:24

Nup, I love my black jeans. The centuries before two hundred years ago can keep their skirts, kilts and loin cloths ect. I love the fact that my trousers keep things in place while I'm jumping and running about.

viva · 05-03-12 00:21:44

Mapplehorses, you might find your black jeans becoming old fashioned themselves as la mode changes.. certainly seeing a big push towards the boys-in-"girls"-clothing thing and a move away from the idea that women can wear everything on the market, but certain clothes styles are taboo for men. I think in 2012, we're a little bored of taboo.

aven frey · 05-03-12 03:46:43

How does one jump and run about in jeans? I have enough troubles sitting and being still in jeans, I feel like they not only restrict my lifestyle but also my veins and in turn my arteries. In fact I feel they're probably dangerous, mostly to my mental health. But I just got up and washed my hands for the fourth time today and if it were socially acceptable I'd be sitting here right now in my netball skirt and fluffy socks.

viva · 05-03-12 04:11:45

Oh Bobby, if I'm sitting across from you in my hip hop booty-shorts and EXTREMELY fluffy socks, then please you should wear your netball gear if only to make me feel in good company.

mapplehorses · 05-03-12 11:35:22

Eh each to their own...though those damn fashion trends are making it harder for me to get a certain kinda black jean = P. Personally I find jeans easy to dance, headroll, cartwheel, and wander about in. Eh if I was playing sports or running on a regular basis I'd make some time for shorts = P.

blissed · 05-03-12 13:24:57

Mapple you need a miniskirt

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mapplehorses · 06-03-12 22:43:51

Tsk you know what I just looked in my drawers and I don't have a mini skirt = P

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