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#51 06-01-12 02:06:14

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

artist_kitkat wrote:

But the best and most likely book to impress me is a kid's book by a dutch guy "Het je ouf mein kop gepoeped?" or something to that effect, about a mole who gets a poo on his head and goes around asking all the farm yard if they crapped on his head - complete with answers and the best onomatopoea (sp??) that I've ever seen.. totally hilarious and irreverent and a book that I want to own one day. smile

Oh my goodness. For some reason I own this book in both the original Dutch (I can't speak or read a word of Dutch) and in English. It is absolutely brilliant. One of the best mainstream-ish children's books I've come across in a long time.

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But the crux of this thread? Yeah, if sex was on the table from the start, the books can wait.

You make a very good point here WLV612... a very good point indeed. You were clearly at the top of your class.

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#52 06-01-12 15:14:45

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

jane_e wrote:
WLV612 wrote:

But the crux of this thread? Yeah, if sex was on the table from the start, the books can wait.

You make a very good point here WLV612... a very good point indeed. You were clearly at the top of your class.

I'm just sayin'........

I mean, if that's the primary and mutual reason for hooking up, I can't envision myself asking, "Oh. By the way, before we get naked and sweaty, do you have a book about a mole who gets poo in his head?"
I see that as a potential mood killer. On the other hand, as many gals on this thread seem to really be into this book, perhaps I need to make an exemption.
It's a lot of common sense. If a gal asks me, "Would you like to go back to my place for coffee?" I ain'a gonna get miffed if there's no coffee but sex is choice #2. Make sense?
It's nine-ish here and I'm drinking my coffee and I've just written about a mole with poo on his head. I'm pathetic.

You lot are great fun.


"Chacun prépare sa propre mort."

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#53 06-01-12 20:31:08

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

W I think alot of women and men would agree with you, but I think getting to know someone is a lovely part of hooking up, and the communication and trust you need for sex to stand the best chance of being genuinely good. After all, the complete strangers we meet and have great sex with in our imaginaton do everything right at exactly the right time because they're us smile

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#54 06-01-12 21:18:33

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blissed wrote:

"After all, the complete strangers we meet and have great sex with in our imaginaton do everything right at exactly the right time because they're us smile"

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That's very good. Zen like.  Truth be known, I've only had up front redhot monkey sex one time. It was a one off (No pun.....) and it was a night to remember but the rest have the slow dance variety. No. I tell a lie. Twice with the, "Nice shoes. Let's fuck." style. Second time was just biological need for us both. But it worked.


"Chacun prépare sa propre mort."

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#55 07-01-12 01:20:42

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Oh I wouldn't argue that there aren't people who meet and both have spontaneously great sex.

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#56 07-01-12 13:07:30

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

I'm not sure I could trust anyone who doesn't have at least one small bookshelf full of well-loved books, and I definitely couldn't have sex with someone I don't trust.  I think the best assortment would include some books that I've read, some that I've meant to read, and some that I've never known.  That gives maximum opportunities for questions and comments.

I'd also want to see the video shelf, which may or may not be near the bookshelf.  I knew a woman who loved Babylon 5 as much as I do.  Of course, it was before it was on DVD, so my entire collection was a set of VHS tapes with the ads carefully edited by me.  A labor of love, really...

For me, though, the crowning jewel of a bookshelf that approves of Fuckability would be the entirety of the Chronicles of Amber, by Roger Zelazny.  If a lovely lady had that on her shelf, I would surely find her irresistible.

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#57 09-01-12 00:18:15

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

i have a confession to make: many years ago, i fell out of fiction.  for most of my life i could eat that shit up.  i reckon reading fiction consumed most of my childhood's waking hours.  but many years of critical fiction-reading at uni, and the over-wroughtness of picking it all apart until it no longer resembles itself, totally knocked me off the fiction train and started me on a long many years of theory & other non-fiction.  which means i probably read about 4 books a year, if i've really put in a mammoth effort.  i'm at a turning point now, and easing myself back in with autobiography and fiction writers i know i like (currently digging into what is the what by dave eggers).  last week i made the mistake of trying, for the third time, the unbearable lightness of being by kundera, and this time i got over halfway through and still i found it totally flat.  viva says you don't have to finish a book if it sucks, and i'm trying to keep that in mind.  some books are rejects.  i thought it might be me, but actually, it's him.  i'll give him another shot when my friend finishes her copy of immortality

if you came home with me, you'd see that i most definitely have books, but that the majority of them (2 of 3 shelves) are about food or sex.  you wouldn't know that most of them remain unread by me, and i'd be able to tell you enough about each of them to make you think i had.  and then you'd stop asking me questions about books because all of the fucking furniture is really close to the bookshelves.  i didn't do that on purpose, but now that i think about it, it's a clever trick.

but in my recent growth spurt into such skills as Non-attachment and Escape into Fantasy, i think that fiction-for-pleasure really has a place, so i'm definitely very open to suggestion and i'm going to go through this thread and add some titles to my amazon list.  if anyone has any particularly good gateway fiction, though, for those who are struggling to find their place in story, i am definitely taking suggestions.

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#58 09-01-12 00:47:44

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

gala wrote:

you wouldn't know that most of them remain unread by me, and i'd be able to tell you enough about each of them to make you think i had.

thanks for my morning laugh today I needed it. I can effortlessly imagine you chatting up a big-brained bespectacled hottie, schooling them hard on their favorite novel (falling half-way out of your bookshelf, untouched since you brought it home from a baked goods swap) before schooling them hard on your favorite patch of hardwood floor.

I browsed through many items of furniture in my imaginary catalogue of your place and you two ended up on the floor, but the exploratory exercise did make me stop and think whether fucking in a rocking chair would be fab or just really frustrating. Anyone know from experience?

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#59 09-01-12 02:23:56

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gala wrote:

if anyone has any particularly good gateway fiction, though, for those who are struggling to find their place in story, i am definitely taking suggestions.

I'm going to have to go out on a limb here as I'm not quite sure which direction you'd want to go, and I sound a bit like a shill but try, 'Polar Star' by Martin Cruz-Smith.
I feel he fleshes out his characters to the point where one can find a connection with one or more, male or female.
And please, if you haven't, read the Dragon Tattoo Trilogy. Lisbeth Salender is one of literature's most formidable characters.
Not sure if I'm going under the direction you seek but as you mention and like Diane DeMornay, you can simply read enough to convince others you have read it all. A very few obscure facts carefully dropped at the right time can amaze and astound.


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#60 11-01-12 15:23:25

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

WLV612 wrote:
gala wrote:

if anyone has any particularly good gateway fiction, though, for those who are struggling to find their place in story, i am definitely taking suggestions.

I'm going to have to go out on a limb here as I'm not quite sure which direction you'd want to go, and I sound a bit like a shill but try, 'Polar Star' by Martin Cruz-Smith.

I don't know if anyone else tried out WLV612 movie suggestions in the main stream erotic film thread, but I think he may know what he's talking about when it comes to books and movies...

Gala, I am super bad at recommending books because I usually forget the author, and the title, and the main story line and end up saying things like "oh, yeh I just read a great book it was...by what's her name". My mom on the other hand does not have this issue and she bombards my sister and I constantly with book suggestions. I don't have any thing to offer you but just yesterday my mom sent me an email to the effect of:

"Janey, I had a long and glorious chat with so and so. I was telling her about Wildwood. In addition to the recommendations below, she also suggested Ursula Laguin's The Dispossessed and P.D. James Death Comes to Pemberley--it is written as a kind of "sequel" to Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice so a working knowledge of that novel and its characters will make this one quite fun. It is has been on the best seller list for a good stretch this past while. I am also attaching a very cool link the the "best of" fantasy and sci fi. You will be surprised at how many we have read:)"

Note that my mom italicized all the book titles as any good copy editor would.

Might be a place to start. I have no idea what my mom is doing reading sci/fi, but it is not my place to ask. And how a sequel to Pride and Prejudice could be "fun" is beyond me. That being said I loved Ursala Laguin's short story...name forgotten. Also, if my mom was on here suggesting books she would probably tell you to read the Secret Life of Bees. Then she would call you to tell you about. Then she would mail it half way around the world to you "just because" and then give it to you for your birthday just in case you haven't read it yet.

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#61 11-01-12 21:04:00

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I purchased a copy of "Death Comes to Pemberley" and will donate it to our local library tomorrow.
Our library is and has been in dire straights for years due to funding and they add so much to the community. It overlooks an old damn and a very old church and I take my computer and play chess by the view on rainy or snowy days. Just the smell of books is very relaxing.
And thank you very much jane for the compliment. I'm honored.
Gala, I have no idea of your likes or dislikes but I'd pay you to read Cruz-Smith's, "Rose". You may not enjoy the novel as I did but it's a page turner. "Water for Elephants" is brilliant as the author knew nothing about the subject and was selling items on Ebay to make money. The movie lacks something and comes no where near the color and fullness as does the novel.

*A bit different but well written work of non-fiction is Patrica Cornwell's, "Portrait of a Killer. Jack the Ripper Case Closed"
She makes a compelling case but I'm skeptical. There is no way of knowing if her choice may or may not have had alibi's for the dates of the killings. But she is frank in her review of her own findings and admits room for speculation.

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#62 12-01-12 00:53:10

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Also Water fo- excuse me. Water For Elephants, in addition to being a great book, was a NaNoWriMo novel!! National Novel Writing Month is in November of every year and the idea is that the first step to writing a truly great novel, is to write a truly shit novel. Hence, it's a challege to just, you know, put down 50,000 words by the end of the month without stressing about form, function, quality or editing.

Yeah, too bad the movie was truly shitty.

I try every year of course, but I tend to be distracted, like most NaNoWriMers. This chick made it though, and she made it big. So lovely.

Woah I just got lost in Jane's flowchart. Amazing. Except I have read nearly everything on it including that horrible Robin Mckinley vampire novel. Oops, embarassing!

Gala if you read one book this year besides the pile I'm going to lay on you next time we see each other, make it Geek Love.

"The novel is the story of a traveling carnival run by Aloysius "Al" Binewski and his wife "Crystal" Lil. When the business begins to fail, the couple devise an idea to breed their own freak show, using various drugs and radioactive material to alter the genes of their children. "

Geek Love is the story of the family. I would say more but I wouldn't want to spoil it.

Also everyone should read Flatland, such a slim little novel for the amount of *snrk* perspective it gives. Haha thats a joke but you guys don't know it's a joke yet cause you haven't read the book! Hhahaha!

Also if we're into freaks and twins, and if we ever felt lonely, Vonnegut's novel Slapstick will speak to us.

"The siblings created, among other things, a plan to end loneliness in America through vast extended families. Under the plan, all citizens would be provided with new middle names, made of the name of a random natural object paired with a random number between 1 and 20. Everyone with the same name would be cousins, and everyone with the same name and number would be siblings."

Lonesome no more!

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#63 12-01-12 01:20:13

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"Yeah, too bad the movie was truly shitty.

I try every year of course, but I tend to be distracted, like most NaNoWriMers. This chick made it though, and she made it big. So lovely."

I read her notes before I read the book, read her notes again and was dumbfounded.
She made such a specific point of defining one character in particular and she did it perfectly. She must have had a reason in doing so and I think I can guess the reason and yet the movie shot right by that crucial chemistry.
I really like Reese Witherspoon, heck I even like her without her spoon but she wasn't enough to make the film worth the time.
Like you, I became an instant Sara Gruen fan. The stories of the other disasters are true and one in particular is heartbreaking to read.
I should mention the book, "Triangle". Based on events that would change America forever. It too is heartbreaking and I lay flowers at the spot in NYC every March.

Listen guys, I love you all, I hope you know that but I have to back off until I get my budget straightened out. I'll be looking in and will try to get back soon as I can.
Take care of yourselves and be good, If you can't be good, be even better. Practice makes perfect.
I know some good things are in store for the site and if need be, I'll sell a kidney to get back.


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#64 12-01-12 03:07:21

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

WLV612 wrote:

I really like Reese Witherspoon, heck I even like her without her spoon but she wasn't enough to make the film worth the time.

man we are a funny bunch, I am getting my laughs in all the time these days.

I'm sad that you're leaving for awhile WLV. You're a great presence on the forums so I look forward to when you get back. Have you considered selling lemonade? I'd subsidize your porn habit, in exchange for a refreshing beverage. Others may just feel the same.

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#65 12-01-12 05:37:20

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Yeah WLV you've been lovely to have around! x

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#66 12-01-12 19:14:26

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You folks are so kind. I do need to get my budget under control. Just bought a new car and German engineering does not come cheap but it's essential if one suffers from an addiction to speed.
The kidney offer still stands.
Again, I know of a lot of really cool things in the works so I'll look in often. All you have to do is look at the forum's and you can see that my interaction here is very important to me.
If new Amari vids hit soon, I'll throw in the other kidney for free. Unlike the rest of my body, they're actually in quite good shape.

Some time back when I was still running, there were two little girls who would set up a lemonade stand on the street where I'd run. I'd always get a cup and always left a rather large tip. Not many kids these days show that sort of energy.
Last summer I was walking by the house and I asked the mother why the girls no longer sold the lemonade and she said, "Because they're both in collage."
Time, it does fly.
So yes, the market's wide open. Hard to push the stuff in the winter though......


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#67 12-01-12 21:42:44

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Ha ha W get that kidney out and get back here! smile 

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#68 14-01-12 09:32:46

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

i know i'm a bit late, Gala - but recommending books is one of my SuperPowers - i worked in a bookstore for about three years, and can pretty much pull stuff out that people like to read based on what they have read fairly well.  if you want to throw some of the titles you do like my way, i'll shoot a list back.

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#69 14-01-12 16:30:20

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I don't know where my mind's gone but one of the best books I've read and read and read and I feel should be required reading for school grades in the upper class is Jennifer Boylan's amazing, "She's Not There."
It's painful, sad and depressing in parts but it's also very witty, even humorous at times and a true life story of courage, change and love.
I think I mentioned this on another thread but when I finished reading it for the first time, I sent an E mail to Professor Boylan's website and within five minutes, received a very warm and personal reply.
A, "Don't Miss" book.


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#70 15-01-12 17:37:53

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blissed wrote:

W I think alot of women and men would agree with you, but I think getting to know someone is a lovely part of hooking up, and the communication and trust you need for sex to stand the best chance of being genuinely good. After all, the complete strangers we meet and have great sex with in our imaginaton do everything right at exactly the right time because they're us smile

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Agree with you fully Blissed.  And also, that rare, in the flesh, remember it forever, one night,  immediate, hot, up against the wall, rug-burns on the floor sex can be pretty damn close.   May never see you again seems to lead to anything goes which gets pretty close to at least my imagination.  Different than this is the one I want to be with for a while, but way hot in its own way.

If there was one perfect imaginary lover characteristic, what would it be?

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#71 16-01-12 00:21:12

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

Scottblueeyes wrote:

If there was one perfect imaginary lover characteristic, what would it be?

Leaving in the morning.

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#72 16-01-12 16:24:18

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viva wrote:
Scottblueeyes wrote:

If there was one perfect imaginary lover characteristic, what would it be?

Leaving in the morning.

Perfect Imaginary Partner: 

It's your turn: lie back, close your eyes, these silk straps go around your wrists.   If you open your eyes, try to touch me, say a word, I stop.  Then it's my turn.

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#73 16-01-12 16:29:24

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

Scottblueeyes wrote:

If there was one perfect imaginary lover characteristic, what would it be?

Being positively open minded and non judgemental.

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#74 17-01-12 16:03:44

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

gala wrote:

if anyone has any particularly good gateway fiction, though, for those who are struggling to find their place in story, i am definitely taking suggestions.

Not sure if its gateway fiction, as the story arc is not traditional by any stretch, but Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close is an amazing premise executed wonderfully.  The event the story hinges on is haunting and stays with you forever.  Giving me shivers thinking about it 5 years later.   If possible should be read before seeing the movie so the imagery is your own.

The Blind Assassin would be great gateway fiction methinks. Margaret Atwood is masterful.  You can't help but just be astounded by her storytelling ability, independent of the story itself.  Like riding down a river, with scenery so beautiful that you don't care where the river is going.  It is three stories nested within one another brilliantly.  A mystery novel that can't help but have you trying to put together the pieces before you get to the conclusion.

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#75 17-01-12 23:19:19

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Re: If you go home with somebody and they don't have books, dont fuck them

emily_c wrote:

i know i'm a bit late, Gala - but recommending books is one of my SuperPowers - i worked in a bookstore for about three years, and can pretty much pull stuff out that people like to read based on what they have read fairly well.  if you want to throw some of the titles you do like my way, i'll shoot a list back.

Can we all take advantage of this super power? Hoping yes, I'm in the mood for something along the lines of...

The Bean Trees by Barbara Kingsolver
Good of Small Things by Arundhati Roy
Oryx and Crake by Margaret Atwood

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