Oral fixation by Frauline

seamfree · 04-08-06 09:08:47

This was a very nice piece, unfortunately another site beat you to it a few days ago. Notwithstanding that, is this really what your genre is all about? Sure an orgasm, but not a self induced one which is what the title of your site "I feel myself" purports to have a unique propriety on. You need to be careful!! Integrity is all about being true to oneself. It's true in pornography just as it is in every aspect of human behaviour.

Burlesque · 04-08-06 09:24:00

Welcome to the forum, Seamfree!

I have noticed of late that I always disagree with new members, but that's probably because I'm getting old and curmudgeonly. Never mind me. I just disagree, that seems to be what I do.

However, I'm of the opinion that variation is nice and that "Oral Fixation" is an example of that. I can't imagine that this type of video will dominate IFM, and there are plenty of others to choose from. There are a few that I'm not particularly into, but that's fine, because there are so many that I do like. Many many many many .

Burlesque.

seamfree · 04-08-06 15:06:23

Yes Burlesque I agree with your disagreement. In essence there was everything in the OF by F to get excited about. NO COMPLAINTS - truly. My remarks are not directed at the shoot, but a caution to the masters of the site itself - lest they should lose their way you see.

DessousLover · 04-08-06 17:23:10

Hm,

I personally think, this site wins with more variation! Why not build in this type of video sometimes? I mean it is really erotic! It is not like vulgar porn!

I like it and I would be glad to see this kind of video from time to time!

DL

jerryb76 · 04-08-06 18:41:07

seamfree wrote:

Yes Burlesque I agree with your disagreement. In essence there was everything in the OF by F to get excited about. NO COMPLAINTS - truly. My remarks are not directed at the shoot, but a caution to the masters of the site itself - lest they should lose their way you see.

I think they have a pretty good handle on "the way"
This site will continue to be the best and classiest site on the net, bar none, for a long long long time.

Rudimaus · 04-08-06 19:24:51

It´s beautiful.
You can feel that they love each other...
MORE!!!

The_Elfman · 04-08-06 19:38:03

"5 days after filming this Frauline's visa expired".................AND???!!!!!!!!
Was she deported? If so did her man go with her? What happened to them?

Another notch on the tasetfully lit bed post for IFM there I think. Well done everyone, particularly the lovely couple. If either of you read this I hope everything works out for you guys.

And will someone please tell us what happened to Frauline!!!

Elfman.

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richard · 05-08-06 05:41:34

This video has incited a lot of discussion around our office as well. We intended for it to follow a course similar to Stella and Luke's, but just before the shoot, Fraukine told us that she may not be able to orgasm in that way, and so we asked them to do whatever they felt would achieve the aim, and we'd film it as best we could. The lighting wasn't always right for the body positions but max has edited around most of those problems.

Anyway this isn't a new direction for the site, and may well be the last time we post such a video. We're sticking to the core theme of women pleasuring themselves, though sideways excurisions from time to time can be interesting.

seamfree · 05-08-06 08:23:51

Well it looks like ifm officials have a sense of what I am getting at. Meantime this site "rocks". And I also now know why Oral Fixation was described as something bitter sweet. Maybe its mentioned in other postings elsewhere, but I didn't know that the gorgeous Frauline was having to return to her native land. Really sad.

The_Elfman · 05-08-06 16:17:51

richard wrote:

Anyway this isn't a new direction for the site, and may well be the last time we post such a video. We're sticking to the core theme of women pleasuring themselves, though sideways excurisions from time to time can be interesting.

I think that the occasional deviation from the usual IFM submission is good. It helps to keep it fresh. Part of IFM's remit is to explore erotic film making and as long as they retain the integrity and beauty which is the hallmark of the site they can give us a whole new perspective on more traditional areas of erotica.

Elfman

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nihpuad · 05-08-06 16:27:54

The_Elfman wrote:

richard wrote:
Anyway this isn't a new direction for the site, and may well be the last time we post such a video. ...
I think that the occasional deviation from the usual IFM submission is good.

Based on my previous comments, it won't be any surprise that I agree with Elfman and the others who've supported this sort of content. In fact, I'd like to see even more variety. If there's a concern that other-than-masturbation routes to orgasm detract from the core concept, maybe you could create a separate section for non-core contributions, similar to Overkill at BA.

Blaulix · 06-08-06 13:37:38

I love it too.... It´s not pure Sex... It´s great.....

@frauline:
Schöne grüße aus Deutschen Landen.... Bist du jetzt wieder zuhause? Ich finds klasse wenn du so Exhibitionistisch veranlagt bist. Das Video ist klasse geworden...

aven frey · 07-08-06 03:36:26

seamfree wrote:

This was a very nice piece, unfortunately another site beat you to it a few days ago. Notwithstanding that, is this really what your genre is all about? Sure an orgasm, but not a self induced one which is what the title of your site "I feel myself" purports to have a unique propriety on. You need to be careful!! Integrity is all about being true to oneself. It's true in pornography just as it is in every aspect of human behaviour.

hmmm, I would be interested to know Seamfree why you thought this video brings into contention the integrity of IFM.
I don't actually think IFM has a unique propriety on women masturbating but instead the art and integrity of IFM is in its intimacy, honesty and production values, (and everything Elfman wrote!). IFM isn't concept driven (like for example BA or ISM), it is visual and sensual and with this in mind I can't see why IFM shouldn't have scope to be innovative and experimental without the cliche misnomer of "loosing our way". (God imagine if Bob Dylan, listened to all the folk purists and never went electic!!).
On a different note the reason I really love editing these video is that although there is plenty of sexy stuff out there for my bi curious side, I've yet to find anything else even remotly arousing for my mainly hetro self. I'm not really sure how many female subscribers we have but wouldn't it be great (and a nice, timely change for porn) for IFM to produce content that really appealed to women and couples aswell as men.

richard · 07-08-06 04:49:13

max( wrote:

God imagine if Bob Dylan, listened to all the folk purists and never went electic!!).

I thought you were starting to write "imagine if musicians all listened to bob dylan and never went electric". Now THAT I would concur with. But imagine if Bob Dylan had stopped before he picked up the harmonica...now that also is worth some brainspace.

seamfree · 07-08-06 05:45:49

I did not say that Frauline's beautiful Oral Fixation video brought IFM's integrity into contention. I AM saying that integrity is a fragile thing and when you take a platform on anything at all (as ifm has done) our integrity is exposed and we need to be careful about how we guard it. And Max you can be as experimental and innovative as you want to be I will still view it with relish. Meanwhile all I am doing is expressing an opinion on one tiny slice of the concept as I see it. Is that what this forum for or am I missing something here? I would certainly not want ifm to loose their way or even tighten it.

Burlesque · 07-08-06 09:20:52

No one is trying to censor you, Seamfree. Your opinion is valid, and your concern as well: if IFM were to start catering to mainstream criteria, that would be a bad thing indeed, I agree. I don't see any signs of that happening, though, and the response from The Powers That Be seem to bear me out on this, so I think you can start ploughing through the videos with a relaxed smile on your face . Please don't think that anyone is trying to shut you up! Far from it: please go on posting in the forum. We like a bit of a talk here!

Burlesque.

seamfree · 07-08-06 21:54:00

Thanks for the kind words Burlesque and although the reaction to my comments was unexpected, it was not surprising. I have no problem at all with members reacting to my views either in disagreement or otherwise. Their membership fees are every bit as good as mine. Max's remarks, however, had a prickly and defensive edge to them which I felt was unfair given that she is coming from a position of power and I had not broken any rules. Notwithstanding all of that I thought Oral Fixation was a beautiful depiction of mutual sensitivity, desire and sensuousness. I enjoyed it immensely. Unfortunately a huge amount of male / female sex on the internet is not like that at all. Most of it, with rare exceptions, is characterised by a relentlessly abrasive fixation on male sexual gusto which is as sordid as it is sickening.
I suspect this is why sites with a genuinely unique package tend to steer clear of it.

Burlesque · 07-08-06 22:09:36

Max doesn't get prickly, defensive or unfair. She gets enthusiastic and energetic and makes flowers blossom in her wake and cute, furry animals bounce with joy, owing to the sheer lifegiving warmth and gratitude-inducing aura of pure, unadulterated wonderfulness that emanates from every shining particle of the sometimes overpowering but never overbearing perfection that is her being.

Apart from that I couldn't agree with you more.

Burlesque.

seamfree · 08-08-06 01:26:03

I do not, regrettably, have these pure laser light insights of yours Burlesque. All I know about Max is what she writes in response to my writings. I await this experience of "overpowering perfection" with the keenest of trembling anticipation. Or maybe I've already had it!! Ho hum.

Burlesque · 08-08-06 01:30:28

Do watch the "Superlatives" videos. Max is the blonde girl chewing gum .

Burlesque.

seamfree · 08-08-06 06:48:46

Have watched the "superlatives" for the manyeth time and yes they are cool, very cool. But I have no better idea of what manner of woman Max is than I have of what manner of woman Anna Kournakova is by watching her play tennis. Despite her many critics - Anna K that is - I wouldn't mind being able to play tennis as well as she does.

Burlesque · 08-08-06 16:28:25

Seamfree: maintain a sense of humour about it, whatever "it" is.

Burlesque.

Burlesque · 08-08-06 19:50:52

I have just watched "Oral Fixation" again, and I must say I'm awfully fond of it, as I am of the Stella&Luke videos. The Couple Video is a nice little subgenre which it would be nice to revisit every now and then, even though I seem to be in agreement with most of the people who have spoken about this inasmuch as I too think that the main focus of IFM should not shift from The Solo Girl Video. Still, every now and then, as I said, every now and then ... .

Burlesque.

The_Elfman · 08-08-06 23:29:37

Burlesque wrote:

I have just watched "Oral Fixation" again, and I must say I'm awfully fond of it, as I am of the Stella&Luke videos. The Couple Video is a nice little subgenre which it would be nice to revisit every now and then, even though I seem to be in agreement with most of the people who have spoken about this inasmuch as I too think that the main focus of IFM should not shift from The Solo Girl Video. Still, every now and then, as I said, every now and then ... .
Burlesque.

I have to agree with you Burlesque. The submissions that really stand out for me are the "indulgence" ones, Stella & Luke, Bodyquake, and Max & Inne's "superlatives". I would certainly like to see more "couples" submissions on the site. The way that these have been presented set a new bench mark in erotic film making I think. (And well done Max for your wondeful "feel" in these submissions).

Elfman.

blissed · 09-08-06 16:18:19

Liandra wrote:

seamfree wrote:
Max's remarks, however, had a prickly and defensive edge to them which I felt was unfair given that she is coming from a position of power and I had not broken any rules. Notwithstanding all of that I thought Oral Fixation was a beautiful depiction of mutual sensitivity, desire and sensuousness. I enjoyed it immensely. Unfortunately a huge amount of male / female sex on the internet is not like that at all. Most of it, with rare exceptions, is characterised by a relentlessly abrasive fixation on male sexual gusto which is as sordid as it is sickening.
I suspect this is why sites with a genuinely unique package tend to steer clear of it.
Why is it that because mainstream pornography has made such a hash of human sexuality we should all be afraid to touch male/ female sex like it has the lurgy. Doesn't that fear perpetuate the current status quo? Isn't it the case that only bad things happen ( or continue to happen) when good people fail to act? I hope that IFM continues to portray female sexuality, and female sexual enjoyment and orgasm in all the forms it takes. I have faith that Max and Richard can do that with the utmost integrity and I should hope that fears and stigma will not turn them away.

Hey welcome back Liandra!
I think the market for people who like to see a guy wriggling around is a lot smaller than it is for those who want to see a woman, but theres no harm in having some vids like this. I think max worked really hard on trying to get this right so she gets a special ABCD "Above And Beyond the Call of Duty" award that is only normally given out to supermarket staff at ASDA!!! But this is an exeption. Oh and she gets a certificate of attentance for turning up everyday and a 30 miles of smiles thankyou letter for smiling on the shop floor. So you see how much more she'd get if she worked in a supermarket and yet she gives all that up to do this. So you see Seamfree it's because she worked so hard on it I expect thats why she seemed a bit touchy to you.max never seems to get into arguements which is really nice in one way but on the other hand you never get to kiss and make up

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