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#1 11-11-09 21:30:14

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Just like an orgasm

Things that almost instantly give you something aproximating that special feeling, that is unrelated to sex.

Right now? Matt Cameron's drumming on Pearl Jam's latest album, "Backspacer", especially on the track "Johnny Guitar".

I'm sure there must be plenty of Australian snacks that is devine and that is almost as good as an orgasm. I've got a snack fetish.

I had cherry pie and coffee once, just like Agent Dale Cooper. Only had it the one time though, in London, and it was like ten orgasms in one. Cherry pie isn't a tradition in the Southern Hemisphere I don't think, unfortunately.

Other examples?


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#2 11-11-09 23:29:43

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Re: Just like an orgasm

If you buy some Tesco organic apples and eat one you'll get a taste orgasm, I guarantee it smile

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#3 12-11-09 00:44:19

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This is kind of weird, but tickling my own feet (I am extremely ticklish) 

I can't explain it, but it feels so good.


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#4 12-11-09 01:07:13

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Re: Just like an orgasm

Food: French Toast with a little eggnog instead of milk (or cream) and Grade B maple syrup (grade B kicks ass).  Also, really seriously good vanilla ice cream with hot fudge just as good--and nothing else.

Also, seeing your favorite sports team win something huge!

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#5 12-11-09 01:36:56

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First summer stone fruit of the season.  Laphroaig + cigar.  The Cinematic Orchestra at the Palais on LSD.

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#6 12-11-09 09:45:51

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pcobb4759 wrote:

Also, seeing your favorite sports team win something huge!

Oh, yes! Especially if they are embattled, or made fun of by other people, and they eventually (hopefully) earn success the hard way (Arsenal.)


pcobb4759 wrote:

Food: French Toast with a little eggnog instead of milk (or cream) and Grade B maple syrup (grade B kicks ass).

Sounds supreme. To that I'll add almost any kind of muffin in the morning, with green tea, or black coffee, but blueberry is pretty special. Yum station.


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#7 12-11-09 09:58:31

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gala wrote:

Laphroaig + cigar.

I don't smoke, but that sounds amazing. I'm asuming Laphroaig is some kind of liqueur. Any number of scenes with William Shatner and James Spader in "Boston Legal" springs to mind.


gala wrote:

The Cinematic Orchestra at the Palais on LSD.

I'm not into drugs at all, but I've been fascinated by LSD since I read in "Revolution In The Head" that John Lennon used it mostly as a means to experience ego death. He would have had to do such a thing. What does LSD feel like, Gala?


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#8 13-11-09 01:10:34

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Re: Just like an orgasm

Foods: several types of blue cheese, extremely sour fruit pie.

Music: Johnny Foreigner and A Place To Bury Strangers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW6Bfy7K3Tc
http://www.myspace.com/aplacetoburystrangers

Actually, it happens frequently the first time I hear a song and then not again-- my theory's that it's because I'm anticipating what comes next differently when it's an unfamiliar song, but who knows?

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#9 13-11-09 03:23:06

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Re: Just like an orgasm

A really big sneeze just blows me away (pardon the, oh nevermind).

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#10 14-11-09 22:34:15

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Ravenbarger, Boston Legal and Twin Peaks, we should be friends! May I suggest, if you've not already done it, Deadwood.

To answer your question - the string and piano (I think) crescendo in the middle of Lou Reeds song 'Perfect day' and then the way it gives way to very soft vocals. Genius.

Seeing breathtakingly beautiful things for the first time, such as landscapes (especially lonely, especially at dusk), art (especially ambiguous, especially understated) or people (especially gentle, especially creative).

When I used to be a stripper I would come home after wearing ridiculous heels for 12 hours and rub the balls of my feet and that felt amazing, it hurt but in an amazing way.

Is it a betrayal of my profession to say I actually like all of the above better then orgasms? Orgasms are fairly predictable, I suppose much like the afore mentioned string crescendo, I still like that better. It's genius.

So to take this further, what do people like better then orgasms? Does anyone find orgasms overrated? Is it safe to start such a discussion on such a forum? Any takers?

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#11 15-11-09 00:13:41

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Thank you for the cool post, Bobby. I didn't know if this thread would attract any responses, as the only other thread I created, the "For the love of Dr. Sheldon Cooper" one, seemed to appear DOA.

bobby wrote:

Ravenbarger, Boston Legal and Twin Peaks, we should be friends! May I suggest, if you've not already done it, Deadwood.

We should totally be friends, Bobby. I own the first season of Deadwood on DVD (ordered, funnily enough, from Australia), but I'm yet to watch it. I’ve had it now probably close to two years. I read this amazing interview by the creator on Salon.com where he spoke about what the characters mean to him, and how he considers them speaking to him as communing with God. A little nuts, but very interesting.
For the moment, the only show that really feeds my imagination and wallops me emotionally is Mad Men. The third season just ended in the States, and it was some kind of rollercoaster. Just a beautifully detailed world.
Of course, my all time favourite is Buffy. Just the most amazingly Shakespearian show ever. You wanna get me going, new friend? Start a discussion on Buffy. She’s my favourite superhero ever.

bobby wrote:

Seeing breathtakingly beautiful things for the first time, such as landscapes (especially lonely, especially at dusk), art (especially ambiguous, especially understated) or people (especially gentle, especially creative).

Here, here. I agree wholeheartedly with every single thing you mention here. As toward the textural thing, there are few things as beautiful as a bold, brutal, barren slab of concrete. I personally believe fascist architecture is underrated. Ok, maybe not. I like morning light. There’s nothing like it. Where I live, the light is incredible. Crisp, morning light is very special. Or that smell after it rained, especially in summer, after many hot days, and also the clarity of light the day after it rained. When everything feels like HD around you. I’m beginning to sound like Lynch here, going on about the light. But it’s true: light is very special.

bobby wrote:

When I used to be a stripper I would come home after wearing ridiculous heels for 12 hours and rub the balls of my feet and that felt amazing, it hurt but in an amazing way.

Interesting. I mentioned it in a previous post, but high heels, I don’t know, it’s nice sometimes, but I personally find flat shoes, like those ballet type shoes, so much sexier on a woman. What do you think the appeal is for men with those ridiculous heels, Bobby? I’m beginning to think it might be one of those self fulfilling prophecy type things: men supposedly like them because they supposedly like them. I just find it strange to be turned on by something a woman is sporting and you have a deep suspicion that it is actually making her feel uncomfortable. Thank goodness corsets are a thing of the past.

bobby wrote:

Is it a betrayal of my profession to say I actually like all of the above better then orgasms?Orgasms are fairly predictable, I suppose much like the a fore mentioned string crescendo, I still like that better. It's genius.

I don’t think it is a betrayal. My estimation is that IFM is more about female self-pleasure, and orgasms are only one aspect of that, I’d proffer. In any event, orgasms are cool and all, but my goodness, it’s just one thing. String crescendo’s measure up pretty damn good. I’d like to give an example of more string crescendo’s right now, but I’m hitting a motherfucking blank. Oh, all those crescendo’s on Bitches Brew by Miles Davis is pretty, cosmically awesome. By comparison, almost all of Led Zeppelin’s crescendos are total wank. I was watching Werckmeister Harmonies earlier, by Bella Tarr, and there is this one bit with a character dictating on a tape recorder about pauses in music, and how they are deceptive, and how tonality is the avenue of the gods, and it is pretty amazingly dizzying. Music is something.

bobby wrote:

So to take this further, what do people like better then orgasms? Does anyone find orgasms overrated? Is it safe to start such a discussion on such a forum? Any takers?

I do find them overrated, most of the time. Anyways, sometimes the orgasms of other people are easier to enjoy than one’s own. It is perhaps one of the reasons I’m here at IFM. One of my favourite things in the world is to get that brief moment of experiencing the world through someone else’s eyes. One’s subjectivity is something to balance out in life, I feel. One of my favourite orgasm substitute moments, for instance, is when you happen upon a piece of textual enthusiasm on the net where somebody, with just complete eloquence, goes into detail about something you completely love as well. One of my favourite things in the world is music criticism. Sometimes reading about music is better than actually listening to music, because you can imagine it the way the person is describing it.
I often find Gala’s writing on the Forum better than an orgasm. She’s just such an articulate writer. It’s loverly.
There’s so many “I’s” in this post of mine. I’m exhausted.
I’d like to see folks pick up that orgasm discussion gauntlet you have laid before us.

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#12 15-11-09 00:59:51

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Re: Just like an orgasm

Picks up orgasm discussion gauntlet laid before us and throws it up in the air!! smile I love orgasms, they get disappointing if I have too many. Orgasm discussion gauntlet comes down, I look up, jump up and catch it in my mouth and then land perfectly to rapturous applause.

blissed wrote:

If you buy some Tesco organic apples and eat one you'll get a taste orgasm, I guarantee it smile

I wouldn't go into an almost uncontrollable fit when I bite into a Tesco's apple smile especially if I've put it in a pack lunch at work. but bobby I know what you mean with the music,  the lovely and sudden  endorphine rush, but for me the build up and release of physical pressure from an orgasm is in a class of it's own.

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#13 15-11-09 04:02:39

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Re: Just like an orgasm

The first night it's cold at the end of the summer. You know it'll be warm again the next day, but that snap in the air is your first warning that change is coming.

I love change. I love the midwest because we still have all four seasons. I love when it's time to get out the sweaters.

Sometimes in the winter I'll open up the bedroom window, just a little, so we'll need the really heavy blanket.

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#14 15-11-09 10:35:33

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shamFritters wrote:

The first night it's cold at the end of the summer. You know it'll be warm again the next day, but that snap in the air is your first warning that change is coming.

I love change. I love the midwest because we still have all four seasons. I love when it's time to get out the sweaters.

Sometimes in the winter I'll open up the bedroom window, just a little, so we'll need the really heavy blanket.

What a beautiful post.


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#15 16-11-09 00:22:32

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Sitting quietly and watching somebody do something delicate and intricate such as sewing, drawing, etc.

Swimming alone in the ocean or fresh water (not swimming pools).

Rediscovering art just as I've become a bit numb to it.

I don't tend to find orgasms overrated, though some are more memorable than others. I have the best ones when I have hours alone by myself or with my partner.  My first ever orgasm wasn't so very long ago and it was incredibly memorable - I cried afterwards for the joy of knowing I could do it and experience it like other people. Perhaps that's why I don't find them overrated at this point - they're still relatively new to me and I'm still discovering and furthering my capacity to feel them.

That being said, I wouldn't say they're any better than the experiences above. I don't go astral travelling when I come, ít's just another thing to make life nice.

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#16 16-11-09 06:32:44

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ravenbarber2046 wrote:

What a beautiful post.

Thanks! I live in a beautiful place.

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#17 16-11-09 13:15:34

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ngaio wrote:

Sitting quietly and watching somebody do something delicate and intricate such as sewing, drawing, etc.

That is nice. May I recommend the film La Belle Noiseuse. It has these long
passages of an artist trying to capture the essence of his model, just delicately scribbling onto a folio, and it is so sensual. The movie is 4 hours long, but feels like 20 minutes. Nothing beats the real deal, though.

ngaio wrote:

My first ever orgasm wasn't so very long ago and it was incredibly memorable - I cried afterwards for the joy of knowing I could do it and experience it like other people. Perhaps that's why I don't find them overrated at this point - they're still relatively new to me and I'm still discovering and furthering my capacity to feel them.

That is so beautiful. How is it that you missed out on it for so much of your life? I'm happy you discovered it. Something tells me that it is quite a spiritual thing for you. It is great when you can really appreciate something.


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#18 20-11-09 01:57:10

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ravenbarber2046 wrote:

I own the first season of Deadwood on DVD (ordered, funnily enough, from Australia), but I'm yet to watch it.

Watch it! For me Deadwood honestly trumpsall those shows, Mad Men included (yes so beautifully detailed). Trust me.   

ravenbarber2046 wrote:

I personally believe fascist architecture is underrated.

And fascist art!

ravenbarber2046 wrote:

Interesting. I mentioned it in a previous post, but high heels, I don’t know, it’s nice sometimes, but I personally find flat shoes, like those ballet type shoes, so much sexier on a woman. What do you think the appeal is for men with those ridiculous heels, Bobby? I’m beginning to think it might be one of those self fulfilling prophecy type things: men supposedly like them because they supposedly like them.

Yeah I tend to think the same in most cases. But also it's probably a fetishistic thing. An extreme (as in stripper heels, not normal heels) expression of femininity. Everything in stripping is about extremes. I often felt like some fucked up pretend uber (sp?) female, a complete embodiment of masculine desire gone horribly wrong. Then other times I was far more pragmatic and felt like it was all just fun. It's the plasticity of the shoes that got to me in times of the former. Oh I do think though that some heels are just georgeous.

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#19 20-11-09 01:58:45

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shamFritters wrote:

Sometimes in the winter I'll open up the bedroom window, just a little, so we'll need the really heavy blanket.

I just did this very thing recently and it was lovely, until the mosquitoes got it.

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#20 20-11-09 12:24:02

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bobby wrote:

Watch it! For me Deadwood honestly trumpsall those shows, Mad Men included (yes so beautifully detailed). Trust me.

I saw an episode of Deadwood on TV once, and it was this fight between these two characters that turns into this very disturbingly muddy street fight, and then one of the characters bites the other guy's eyeball out. I'm a little sensitive to violence like that, especially as it was depicted there, you know, to get the grimy tragedy of the thing across. Maybe I haven't gotten over that, and it's been standing in my way. But, on the flipside, I did really enjoy the sensitive portrayal of most of the characters. Right now I'm almost exclusively watching The Big Bang Theory, on a continuous loop. It's maybe not the best thing ever, but it just clicks for me, so much so that I’m probably on my seventh tour of duty. I'll make space for Deadwood soon, I promise, and I'll let you know how it goes, Bobby.


bobby wrote:

But also it's probably a fetishistic thing. An extreme (as in stripper heels, not normal heels) expression of femininity. Everything in stripping is about extremes. I often felt like some fucked up pretend uber (sp?) female, a complete embodiment of masculine desire gone horribly wrong. Then other times I was far more pragmatic and felt like it was all just fun. It's the plasticity of the shoes that got to me in times of the former.

I still don’t get it, man. I know I need to be tolerant of what turns other consenting adults on, but if it doesn’t look good, and super high stripper heels really don’t look good, it’s difficult to respect such proclivities. It’s like the deal with the Twilight saga. What is the deal with the Twilight saga, by the way? It’s a little like Paris Hilton: she’s famous for being famous. Anyways, let me end the circular logic right here, and proffer a question: If something looks absolute balls, or smacks of pandering to the absolute lowest common denominator, is it ok not to respect it, or do you just have to make an even higher leap to that plateau of respecting all folks’ tastes, with all the foibles and frustrations that entails?
In any event, despite my hatred of fetishistic, exaggerated feminine accoutrements, I’m sure you probably still looked very cute in them. For me, latex and other ersatz female accessories is akin to the facial cumshot in porn: maybe a lot of men like the idea of women willingly degrading themselves, or suffering a little bit in those select circumstances, in the service of pleasing them. I think there is a lot of anguish in the male world, and that exoticism of the female “other”, of completely being encapsulated by uber-feminine things, maybe provide a momentary outlet from vestiges of male self-loathing. Maybe it’s one of the reasons so many men like girl-girl porn.
It’s probably one of the reasons I like female masturbation porn: sure I like the aesthetics of it, because it can look so delicately beautiful and soft, but maybe it’s also an escape into a different world that at the very least holds an almost inexhaustible vault of mystery but also offers a momentary escape from my own world of masculine thoughts, reasoning, actions, limits and insecurities. No doubt I’m searching like a motherfucker here.

bobby wrote:

Oh I do think though that some heels are just georgeous.

Oh, I agree, but then it needs to be really cute, and not garish, like some stilettos sometimes are. I'm think of Carey Bradshaw's closet here, for instance.


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#21 20-11-09 19:47:02

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ravenbarber2046 wrote:

It’s like the deal with the Twilight saga. What is the deal with the Twilight saga, by the way?

http://current.com/items/89591135_sarah … mpires.htm

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#22 20-11-09 21:00:32

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ha ha, that's pretty funny, I'm glad only the straight edges are waiting until marriage to get bitten.

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#23 20-11-09 21:21:10

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ravenbarber2046 wrote:

I saw an episode of Deadwood on TV once, and it was this fight between these two characters that turns into this very disturbingly muddy street fight, and then one of the characters bites the other guy's eyeball out. I'm a little sensitive to violence like that, especially as it was depicted there, you know, to get the grimy tragedy of the thing across.

That's one of the things I liked so much about Deadwood, it's is so very grimy and unrelentingly so at times. I could however not actually watch that scene after the first time, it's just too visceral but I love the idea of it. There are a couple of other scenes like that where I cringe when I think of them. It's a very powerful portrayal of human bodies in frontier lands, crude medicine, violence, sex, violent sex etc.

Onto the matters of heels and stuff.
I've always fancied the idea of opening a strip club (and many peoples I've worked with in this industry have also expressed such an idea) where the ladies can just present themselves how they please. It could be a really fun place to work and I'm sure it would be sexier for the punters. And the music would be good or at least varied or at least not Christina Agueleria (sp?). I'm quite certain there is a market for it.

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#24 20-11-09 23:31:02

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blissed wrote:
ravenbarber2046 wrote:

It’s like the deal with the Twilight saga. What is the deal with the Twilight saga, by the way?

http://current.com/items/89591135_sarah … mpires.htm

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Holy fuck man. Fascism just refuses to die. It just takes on new, subtler forms. Can you just imagine those Hollywood fucks with their whitened, capped teeth, grinning like crazy, minting it and not giving a fuck that they're just pumping more useless fluff into an already overflowing pot? The reviews for New Moon have been atrocious. Did anyone see In Good Company? That scene where Topher Grace's character sells the idea of marketing cell phones to under 5's. That is pretty horrifying.

I love how almost any industry eventually becomes legit. Just check out Demonlover by Olivier Assayas, which is set in a semi-plausible new-future and in which 3D hentai is multi-million dollar industry and the movers and shakers in that industry just takes it super seriously. I find it very difficult to make sense of the world.

I'm the old killjoy, no doubt. Next step: shotgun + porch = Clint Eastwood. That sounds pretty cool, actually.

Good clip. Thank you blissed.


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#25 21-11-09 20:16:37

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This isn't entirely orgasmic, but I like the smell of my cat. She's got that warm, furry smell that is just very comforting. She's very special.


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