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I have a particular fantasy about seeing women get caught masturbating, and I'm wondering if anyone shares this. I realize that it's a virtual impossibility to depict authentically, but I've seen one video that captured this (and I wish I could remember where I saw it!). My fantasy is a woman masturbating gets caught (totally unexpectedly of course) by a spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend/lover and gets that sheepish look of slightly embarrassed pleasure on their face, but doesn't stop what she's doing. I guess I have sort of a getting caught fantasy in general. Most of the times that I have really been caught have been by my wife, and she always manages to walk in right as I'm coming. I feel this combination of thrill and embarrassment, although I'm usually more embarrassed about what I'm looking at than about what I'm doing.
I realize this is probably not an easy task for the IFM crew, but this is one of my far-fetched voyeuristic fantasies...
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I can't comment on whether this would be filmable expect to say we tend to film the fantasy of the person -in- the film-, so I expect it would only happen if someone came to us and said "I want you to film me doing this".
But for some reason, I keep thinking about this thread and my own feelings about getting caught. It's funny, because I see myself as pretty open, my fantasies go all over the place and I imagine all sorts of things happening and want to try so many things. Also, I masturbate in front of my partner all the time... Yet, the idea of being caught by anyone - even him - makes me incredibly uncomfortable.
The more I think about that, the more I think it's perhaps because often when I masturbate alone, I will often go for a couple of hours, have about 4-6 orgasms, and basically be in a total, mindless trance the whole time. It's different, for me, to mastubating in front of someone simply because the headspace I am in is so personal and so much of the pleasure is about being by myself, looking after myself, which is something I don't tend to do in many other ways.
Sometimes, when my partner has come home while I'm doing my thang, he's knocked on the (locked) bedroom door and I've politely asked him to go somewhere else for an hour. Often, afterweads, I'll put him into the bedroom with me and we'll have a good ol' shag... But I guess masturbating by myself is just sort of precious to me and I don't like intrusion.
Hmmm, sorry to hijack this topic and make it about me. It's just something I've been thinking about.
Last edited by ngaio (31-08-09 03:09:27)
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ngaio, you can't hijack a thread when it doesn't have any responses!
I think it would be really weird to try to capture something like that since a lot of the appeal in the fantasy is about spontaneity, which is something film doesn't leave all that much room for, especially in a setup like this. You'd need some decent actors for that, which of course would involve the acknowledgment that there was some acting going on, which is off-putting for a lot of the people who come to this site particularly. For me, a scene like that would fit nicely into a feature-length film where you knew more about the people in it and their relationship to one another.
One film that's already here that is not exactly the same thing but a nice surprise anyway is Cinderella's 'watch this'.
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...and Kari's "Private Show"
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ngaio, Thank-you for sharing your personal thoughts with us. Hijack the thread? Maybe, but I am glad that you did.
I feel almost the same way about my masturbation. I consider masturbation to be the purest form of sex. It is something that I do for myself.
When I make love, I feel that I am sharing myself sexually with my partner. That is something different from the solo act of masturbation. I guess you could say that, for me, masturbation is a selfish, self-pleasuring act. Making love is an act of sharing.
In another thread here, I wrote about when I got caught masturbating in the hospital. Some people thrill at getting caught like I was. But I was embarrassed because the young nurse did not consent to seeing me doing that in her presence. She walked-in on me. I actually think she was more embarrassed than I was.
I have mutually masturbated with friends & lovers. That is fun. But it was more in the level of love making because I was sharing myself with other people...not the same as the enjoyment I feel when masturbating alone.
My partner and I sometimes masturbate together while watching videos. She is very open about her masturbation. But our mutual masturbation together is the same as making love with her. Still not the same as when I am alone with myself. I do very much love, and look forward to private times when I can just enjoy the sensations of masturbation without anyone present.
As far as filming someone getting caught doing it, Gala is right about it being hard to actually "catch" someone masturbating and getting it on film. Most people become angry when actually caught unawares like that. Especially if there is a camera involved.
To film it legally for profit, they would know what is suppose to happen and give written consent. That said, they would have to "act" like they were getting caught. And that alone would take the spontaneity out of it.
Since they know that a camera is filming them, we are left with what we have...and that is perfect for me.
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In another thread here, I wrote about when I got caught masturbating in the hospital. Some people thrill at getting caught like I was. But I was embarrassed because the young nurse did not consent to seeing me doing that in her presence. She walked-in on me. I actually think she was more embarrassed than I was.
Not sure I mentioned it at the time, but I thought that was a great story. I know what you mean about the nurse, but it's a hot image nonetheless!
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Steve, thanks for that!
I guess you could say that, for me, masturbation is a selfish, self-pleasuring act. Making love is an act of sharing.
You've made me wonder if the selfish thing has something to do with my discomfort about being spotted, I always had this fear of being selfish (after being told as a child, many times, that I was selfish and that it was a terrible thing) So though I don't feel shame about sexual acts (hence feeling comfortable masturbating -for- a partner) perhaps there's a degree of guilt about being selfish when masturbating alone, hence not wanting to be caught. Like being caught gorging on chocolate cake.
Then again, maybe I'm theorising out my arse.
Man, I really want chocolate cake now.
Last edited by ngaio (31-08-09 08:56:57)
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Steve, thanks for that!
You've made me wonder if the selfish thing has something to do with my discomfort about being spotted, I always had this fear of being selfish (after being told as a child, many times, that I was selfish and that it was a terrible thing) So though I don't feel shame about sexual acts (hence feeling comfortable masturbating -for- a partner) perhaps there's a degree of guilt about being selfish when masturbating alone, hence not wanting to be caught. Like being caught gorging on chocolate cake.
That is an interesting thought. You could be right about why you feel guilty about getting caught.
Unfortunately, lots of people feel guilty about masturbating. From what I've seen, most masturbation guilt comes from being told as a child that masturbation is wrong.
As a teenager, I use to get caught by my parents. They are good people, but they could not handle having a son that masturbated. It went against their religious beliefs. It was even worst for my sister when they caught her masturbating.
In an effort to make me stop, they use to tell me that masturbation was a sin against God. And that he might not allow me to have children of my own if I didn't stop masturbating. My sister got yelled at even more than I did because she was a girl. Not sure why that made a difference to them, but they basically used the same argument.
The first few times I heard that, it scared me! I really thought God was going to somehow get me. After I became older and thought about it, I stopped believing them. But it still caused me a certain degree of guilt because I knew they did not want me wanking. Eventually, I just became better at not getting caught...so did my sister.
As an adult, I feel that masturbation is a wonderful gift to humanity, and that we should all cherish that gift.
But your experiences were different. I can see your point about not wanting to be caught being selfish. You realize that it is wonderful to be able to share the gift of masturbation with someone whom you truly trust. You know how much your partner loves the times when you share that gift with him. You've discovered that you can bring joy to anyone whom you choose to share that gift with.
Then you find yourself masturbating alone, thus keeping that precious gift all to yourself. Yeah, I can definitely understand why you would feel guilty about getting caught while hogging the gift of masturbation all to yourself.
I had chocolate ice cream today. Not the same as chocolate cake...but just as yummy! Next time I'll save you some.
Last edited by steveg2550 (31-08-09 14:38:59)
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Well it's a hot little fantasy. I guess ideally the script goes something like this: one is masturbating in one's own room and someone (hot young nurse, roommate, co-worker, etc) walks in. Both parties are shocked and embarrassed. But the Masturbator is already too turned on to stop, and after the initial embarrassment, continues what she had started. Then the Interrupter starts to get turned on and (a) also masturbates for our viewing pleasure or (b) they have sex.
Could be really hot if done well, or really cheesey if done cheesilly. Like most porn-type fantasies. Me, I'd like to see (or participate in, yessss) a well-done version.
But this one doesn't seem to me (grade-A newbie here) to be really IFM's thing. Scripted little fantasy episodes seem, in general, to not be what this site is all about-- they're more interested in showing us the artist as she is, wanking the way she enjoys wanking.
I agree that solo masturbation is a very private and rather selfish (not necessarily selfish in a bad way!) act. Masturbating by ones self is a very different thing from masturbating with a partner. I really enjoy masturbating along with (or onto!) my partner, watching good porn together, watching her masturbate, etc etc. But now and then one really wants some Private Time all one's own...
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Steve, wow, I always feel so sorry for people who have had experiences where their parents teach them that masturbation is an awful, awful thing and really pound home a sense of shame. I'm glad you've got a much more healthy attitude about it now. I hope you sister has a similarly healthy attitude.
And do save me some of that icecream next time, that would be much appreciated!
Ahhh, private time and chocolate things. What could be better?
Last edited by ngaio (01-09-09 04:18:09)
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A scripted scene would certainly seem strange at IFM (to me, anyway), but watching friends do a roleplay-sex scene has been delightful and intimate and sincere, when I've gotten the chance to do it, and I could imagine IFM doing something wonderful with that, if a couple who liked that particular fantasy came along.
I mean, the question is, can one tell the difference between two people acting for a camera and two people acting for each other? Sure seems that way to me, but then, capturing nuances on camera is always harder than I naively expect it to be.
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I mean, the question is, can one tell the difference between two people acting for a camera and two people acting for each other?
I think at the heart of this is the inherent contradiction in trying to capture true sexual spontaneity on film when capturing anything sexual on film in an ethical manner requires full knowledge and consent. I've often said that my ideal porn would be (or at least, I imagine it would be) a couple who agreed, with fully informed consent, to have hidden cameras placed in their bedroom (or wherever they have sex)... and then, to as great a degree as possible, forgot they were there.
As for the "caught masturbating" scenario, the only way I could imagine it working at IFM would be something like this: A contributor who's planned for several shoots over a period of time mentions to Richard, et al., that "I have a kind of a fantasy about being walked in on, so if y'all wanted to surprise me with that sometime, that'd be cool"... and then went about doing her shoots on the premise that they're all standard IFM solo studio shoots. Then, if they could catch her when she really wasn't expecting it, it's just barely possible that they might be able to capture the genuine "eek! I'm busted" moment in a way that would be satisfying for the contributor and the audience alike.
But I wouldn't wait underwater, if I were you!
Last edited by nihpuad (01-09-09 21:17:06)
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I wouldn't wait underwater... I've not heard that expression before but I like it!
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nihpuad, I like the way you think! And the way you describe the 'caught masturbating' scenario sounds really interesting and potentially hot. But no, I wouldn't wait underwater either...
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I had sort of given up on this thread and forgotten about it...glad to see so much discussion. I definitely realize the virtual impossibility of filming the scenario that I've presented, and as Gala points out, the acting out of such a scene would almost certainly spoil the spontaneity and surprise that are at the core of the fantasy. But, it is a fantasy nonetheless. I'll point out that what turns me on is not full-on humiliation and extreme embarrassment, but rather that little blush from being caught by someone that has seen me get off plenty of times before.
That being said, I definitely don't want to get caught all the time, or even very often. I don't go out of my way to arrange things so that I will get caught, and I actually agree with those on this thread--I'm rather selfish with masturbation as well. Like I think a lot of guys do, I sometimes get into a utilitarian sort of routine where I just masturbate to release and don't bother to enjoy it as much as I could. But when I need to have a long session with myself and we're both home, I'll make it clear that I need some time. I agree that masturbating with each other is definitely not the same as masturbation alone...
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I think it would be great if it could be filmed... maybe a girl masturbating and a room-mate walks in and then decides to join her.
I'm thinking something along the lines of an early Cate video of her making a painting of a nude model and she gets turned on and begins to masturbate at the easle, then the model begins to masturbate also.
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That series, for those who haven't seen it, is the 'art school' series, and anyone who hasn't checked that out yet most definitely should!
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