"hairy" pubes....

shasei42 · 23-08-09 11:50:44

I am wondering since when natural pubes became "hairy?" Why do so many women now have trimmed or no hair at all down there (other than for wearing a swim suit) ?? Does anybody know when this got started and why?

Or is it just in the U.S.? How's the situation in Europe or Australia?

blissed · 23-08-09 20:35:57

No pubes here sorry :)

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BelgianDude · 23-08-09 21:52:01

Nope, not on the other side of the Channel either :-) Only "knew" one girl who didn't shave it all off

shasei42 · 24-08-09 09:43:03

Damn! Even here, we have to deal with "deforestation!!" How unfortunate.

Do you guys know why? Some women told me that it felt better (smooth) or easier to deal with, when shaved. Hmmm.

Now some women are saying guys should shave down there too. It won't happen to me. Save the forest~!!

blissed · 24-08-09 12:02:47

Actually I think there's been so many threads about shaving pubic hair but I think this one is probably the best at answering your question.

http://forum.ifeelmyself.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=789

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steveg2550 · 24-08-09 13:34:01

I love hirsute woman! The more hair on their legs, underarms and mounds, the better. I particularly look for IFM films that features unshaven women. And I have found a good number of them here.

Even with that said, I do not think it will do any good to complain to much about women who have chosen to shave themselves.

Maybe this posting, and others like it, will convince a few more women to try going without shaving. That would be a good thing!

But in the end, we'll just have to accept everyone the way they are.

I am very lucky because I was able to talk my girlfriend/life partner into throwing her razor away a few years ago. Unfortunately, not everyone agreed with her decision.

She got hell from our families (and some of our friends) once they saw how much hair she eventually grew on her legs and armpits. The harassment she suffered when she stopped shaving, really surprised me. Neither of us expected such opposition. We were both disappointed in the reaction of some of our friends & family at her decision, especially since she stopped shaving because I had asked her to. Many tried to convince her to start shaving again. Even her mom still wants her to start shaving again.

She was also pressured at work, especially when wearing summer clothes. She was told to either shave, or wear only long sleeve blouses, long pants or skirts in her office. She did not mind that. But she did mind when some of her co-workers teased her about not shaving. She told me that one of her co-workers wrote "cave woman" next to her name on the toilet stall wall at their office. That co-worker got canned, but the damage was done.

I did not realize how much of a problem she would have from granting my simple request. But still, she has not pick-up a razor. I think now she doesn't shave because she likes being different in that way.

Plus, she likes to be defiant in the face of those who wants her to do something that she feels they don't have the right to tell her to do. I can not count the number of times I've heard her say, "my body, my choice" to someone who told her to shave her hairy pits. The more people who harass her about not shaving, the more determined she is not to shave.

That brings to the question shasei42 asked. Here in the USA, women who do not shave their underarms or legs, risk a certain amount of harassment. When I was in Europe a few years ago. (Bremerhaven Germany) I saw a few more women were unshaven over there, than here. I did not see them experiencing any harassment about their hairy pits, as the women in American seems to suffer. In fact, the Europeans didn't seem to care one way or the other. I wish it was like that here!

I think that is why women mostly choose to shave in the USA. To many, it isn't worth the risk of harassment they might get from being hairy. I can understand how they feel after seeing what my partner is still going through. She still gets funny looks from strangers when we are out together and she is wearing something sleeveless, or a short skirt.

Most women here can not justify taking that type of pressure. For many, it is easier to just shave clean anything visible.

As to how it got started? Who knows? If I were to guess, I would say it started sometime in the late sixties, after the last hippie graduated college and got a job.

I wasn't around back then. But my dad told me that a lot more women than now, didn't shave. That was his way of telling me that he approves of my girlfriend being so hairy. He said it during a family discussion about her. And that just shows how controversial hirsute women are in this society.

Now that I have written so much about my personal life, I wonder if any hirsute women reading this, will add anything about their personal experiences on this issue. How have people reacted when seeing an unshaven woman in public? Has any other women gone through the same crap my partner went through?

If I was in charge of the world, I would ban all female razors! I'd probably be the world's ruler for about a month before the women who like smooth armpits, chase me to another planet.

thinott · 24-08-09 14:42:24

Big Kudos to IFM for the large number of natural women who appear in their videos!

For me a lush (verdant isn't the word: what is it???) growth of hair around a woman's vulva is a wonderfully welcoming, inviting sight.

And under the arms? I swoon.

Then I nuzzle.

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ngaio · 25-08-09 01:08:45

Steve, wow, just wow. Kudos to your girlfriend for putting up with such bullshit. People never fail to dissapoint me. Blah.

steveg2550 · 25-08-09 02:34:22

ngaio, Thank you. Yeah, she is pretty tough. She also enjoys this site as much as I do...and that is a very good thing.

hyperballad · 25-08-09 02:43:13

The only reason I ever removed my pubic hair is because my (male) partners all wanted it that way and for mainstream porno work.

Last lot of mag stuff I did I had a thick v shaped drag strip and even that little bit extra hair was pointed out and questioned.

I am now, for possibly one of the first times in my 20's completely relaxed about my pubic hair, I'm letting it grow out and couldn't give a fuck what anyone else has to say about it.

If I ever realise my dream of being a stripper, I'm keeping the lot of it... Will be interesting to see the reaction it gets.

ngaio · 25-08-09 02:51:33

It's funny, for years I was perfectly comfortable with my pubic hair... it never occured to me to be something to worry about until I started reading a lot of articles online telling women they should shave/wax so their man doesn't have to "pick pubic hairs out of their teeth" etc etc.

Still, I vowed never to shave and only ended up doing it oneday out of curiosity... it was fun but too much of a pain to maintain for me. I've never had complaints about my pubes and I find them strangely comforting - when I didn't have them, I was distressed to realise I couldn't indulge my habit of twirling them around my fingers!

Anyway, Hyperballad, I just have to say and I hope it's ok for me to say this... I think you would make a drop deap gorgeous, intensely sexy, smokin' hot stripper!

hyperballad · 25-08-09 02:52:46

And yeah, I have oft engaged in lengthy debates with a bunch of friends, even close ones, of late in regards to my hairyness... Its really disappointing to see such close mindedness in the group of people I love and spend so much of my time and energy with.

I keep posting bits and pieces out of the forums here, onto my livejournal in regards to hair and it generates a whole lot of discussion. I think this is the first step towards them understanding I'm 'natural' not making a political statement or being lazy/disgusting and that me offending their sense of personal asthetic is their problem - not mine.

I can rant on this topic for hours, I will eventually wear them down and win.

I always do.

Also helps theres a small minority sticking up for me and supporting me on this. Funnily enough they're 2 guys.

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hyperballad · 25-08-09 03:00:35

@ ngaio

I have this vision: cotton knickers, and plain bra, black chaps, cowboy boots and hat. Possibly a lasoo too... Maybe even some flannelette...

I'm would be the bestest cowgirl/stripper evah!

And thanks, I'll get there, eventually.

ngaio · 25-08-09 03:55:38

Hyperballad, shoot us your LJ name if you like and I'll come along and defend ya too, mwa! (All good if you won't want to though) I can't believe so many of them are offended by that. Wow.

As for your vision... words cannot express how hot that is in my mind right now! Nice!!!

daddy571 · 25-08-09 20:35:04

Many men are like me and love natural pubic hair. Shaving it is unnatural. I think the evolutionary function of pubic hair is to retain pheromone scents stronger and longer, to attract a mate.

And if I have to pluck hairs out of my teeth, so much the better!

artist_charlotte_v · 26-08-09 00:40:58

hyperballad wrote:

If I ever realise my dream of being a stripper, I'm keeping the lot of it... Will be interesting to see the reaction it gets.

I think you'd make a wonderful stripper and yep, it's very interesting to see the reactions a little bit of hair will stir up in a strip club. Like, VERY interesting.

ngaio · 26-08-09 06:05:28

Charlotte, really? Wow, can I ask you to elaborate on that statement? I am baffled that hair...or no hair... is a subject that people get so worked up about!

Nikki_Silver · 09-02-14 04:55:38

re steveg2550

Yeah, you pretty much need to be a counter cultural weirdo who doesn't care about dominant culture and especially does not care what your average man on the street thinks, to walk around the US with hairy legs and armpits. Luckily I could care less what anyone who doesn't know me thinks of me and am not interested in anyone telling me what to do with my body. Same can be said for most of my female friends but it's true, most women don't have that bravado (nor men)

MisterEd53 · 27-09-14 02:11:02

Shaving opinions in USA - Watch entire NBC video. Hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Ep3XTn-uE

Jordan_Q · 27-09-14 14:49:36

Mmm I love my pubic hair, having it makes me feel more feminine. However, I do trim it quite a bit because it gets uncomfortable! I don't want it caught in my clothes, and I hate having to clean it when I get my period. I do understand why some women wax it completely though -if I am watching a video of another woman it can be nice to see them really clearly, and when I used to shave fully it could be nice to see myself really well in a mirror, for example. To each their own, I guess, I don't understand why it has to turn into a huge fight!

MisterEd53 · 27-09-14 16:07:56

Thought everyone would get a kick out of this. MisterEd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUc5FAdl2CQ This video is hysterical!

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Was anyone else really competitive about hitting puberty? When the other girls in my 6th grade class started wearing bras, I begged my mom to buy me one even though I had nothin’ but beestings. And when I was one of the first to get my period, I felt like the Queen of some really cool club. And pubic hair? You’d better believe my best friend and I compared our down there hair growth when we were supposed to be doing homework. Ahh, how clearly we understood the significance — pubic hair was among the first signs that we were becoming women. But how little we knew about its potential to be high maintenance. In the years since I got my first little thatch, pubic hair grooming has become a major industry. You can let it grow wild, you can trim it, you can shave it, you can wax it, hell, you can slap a bedazzled bird on it. In fact, how you groom your pubes says a lot about you*, like…

FULL BUSH: You’re strong in your convictions leading people to either love or hate you. You use words like “sensual” and don’t own a flatiron. You think rainy days are really romantic and sing Joni Mitchell in the shower. It should go without saying that you identify as a feminist, but still like to be wined and dined from time to time. You definitely have spent at least 10 minutes looking at your own vagina in a hand mirror. You always order your steaks bloody.

LANDING STRIP: You’re always incredibly well put together and can seemingly pull off any trend you deign to try. You haven’t had to pay for yourself on a date since, well, ever. You’re meticulous in your approach to most everything you try, but that’s because you only attempt things you know you’ll be successful at. You spend the vast majority of your shopping funds at Sephora and every man you’ve ever dated has been shocked to discover that you have a filthy mouth. You only wear thong underwear and are always having a great time.

TRIANGLE: You’re not interested in following trends and are generally set in your ways about what you like and what you don’t. Gwyneth Paltrow is your muse for everything in life. You read all the books on the best seller list and never go anywhere without the latest New Yorker and a bottle of coconut water. You throw a killer dinner party and have the amazing ability to charm the locals in every foreign country you visit. You can be a pretentious jerk but give the best birthday gifts so no one can muster up the nerve to dislike you.

AWKWARDLY SHAVED TUFT: You make “To Do” lists but never accomplish all the tasks on them because you’re easily distracted by more enticing options. Your home and life appears neat and orderly, but there are plenty of hidden messes — but who cares, if no one is the wiser? You can be kind of hasty, so when you decide you want something done, you do it yourself — trimming your bangs, cutting a pair of jeans into shorts, reorganizing your apartment — with mixed results. Luckily, you’re always pretty relaxed and chill, so even when things go wrong, it rolls off your back. Every weekend you wake up and consider getting a tattoo.

SPECIAL SHAPE (LIGHTENING BOLT, HEART, ETC.): You’re desperate for attention and will go to great lengths to get it. You have at one time or another done all of the following: gone skinny-dipping, dyed your hair a crazy color, cursed out your mom, dated an older man, shoplifted, danced on top of a bar, made out with a girl to turn on a guy, and cried to get out of a speeding ticket. But it’s not all bad: your friends love you because you’re always game to talk smack about ex boyfriends, let them tag along when you skip past the velvet ropes at the hottest clubs, and loan them anything they want from your extensive closet. And no one — no one! — aces the “Sex and the City” category at Trivia Night like you do.

BALD: You don’t do anything half way. Some would consider you OCD, but you prefer to think yourself as a perfectionist. You like everything neat and orderly regardless of the occasion, just incase, which is why your bed is always made, your dishwasher is always empty, and your vagina is always hairless. The last one is interesting, because you clean your air conditioner’s filter more often than you engage in any hanky-panky. You haven’t ever in your life run out of toilet paper.

VAJAZZLED: You are a huge Jennifer Love Hewitt fan and live your life by the WWJLHD code.You’re one of those women who believes in blinging everything — your shoes, your cellphone, your vagina — and take the “Real Housewives” franchise very seriously. The only sushi you’ll eat is a California roll. You still wear Uggs and Juicy sweatsuits on your days off and your dog most definitely fits in your purse. You have never not had a boyfriend but you’ve cheated on them all.

* These sweeping generalizations are, of course, ridiculous and silly and all in good fun, although I am a dead ringer for the gal with the “Awkwardly Shaved Tuft.”

Laney · 29-09-14 08:59:44

Jordan_Q wrote:

Mmm I love my pubic hair, having it makes me feel more feminine. However, I do trim it quite a bit because it gets uncomfortable! I don't want it caught in my clothes, and I hate having to clean it when I get my period. I do understand why some women wax it completely though -if I am watching a video of another woman it can be nice to see them really clearly, and when I used to shave fully it could be nice to see myself really well in a mirror, for example. To each their own, I guess, I don't understand why it has to turn into a huge fight!

Dude, I feel exactly the same way! While I love the look of maximum length bushy pubic hair, it starts feeling kind of itchy to me if I let mine grow to that length. So my favorite way to have it is long but a little bit trimmed at either side of my pussy. To me the best thing about having partially shaved pubes is feeling a tongue or penis against my smooth skin... unfortunately though the smoothness doesn't last long enough to make it worth it, I always get red bumps, itchiness and ingrowns within a couple of days.

Though things like those pubic hair personality profile are usually written so vaguely that everyone can relate to them, the only things I could say applied to me are spending 10 minutes looking at my vagina in a hand mirror and a few of the "special shape" characteristics... weird.

studley · 07-10-14 03:23:52

Well I am a guy. Nearly 60 years old. So include that in my perspective.
I just really like seeing the skin. Also because I almost always include slow and lengthy oral stimulation to my wife during every love making session, I don't like to have to pick my way through the hair to provide the kind of stimulation that she enjoys. My wife knows my preference, so she trims it close most of the time, and I appreciate that. I don't push it beyond that. She knows my preference, and she makes her own decision about it. I respect that.
I understand short hair can be irritating as it grows out. I have offered to shave myself too. My wife doesn't want that. So I keep myself trimmed short, but don't shave myself either.
I believe somewhere in the discussion should be, "What does my longterm lover like" and maybe bend a little in that direction.

I have learned a lot about the feminine perspective from IFM. I appreciate the respect that this forum brings to sexuality.

Elsa_H · 07-10-14 13:31:48

Sometimes I wish I liked the feeling of pubes more! I love the look of a full bush but I just find it so, so irritating. Very recently I let my pubes do their thing for about 3 weeks (Dev, I think you and Traci got a glimpse of them at one point) and I just found the feeling of them rubbing against my kickers really irritating. I just prefer the sensation of stuff against my skin, even sex feels slightly less pleasurable to me when I'm totally unshaven (am I weird??). Although I do prefer how my pussy looks with maybe 1.5 weeks of hair growth - my pussy isn't totally bare but isn't hidden either. I also don't shave specifically for my videos, I just go with whatever is happening on the day, so maybe one day I will shoot one when I'm a bit hairier Maybe one day I will also get clippers or something to maintain that length, but I'm lazy and have more fun things to spend my money on!!

I am also an awkwardly shaved tuft (what does that look lilke?!)

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viva · 08-10-14 03:50:50

Arright I'm just gonna step back in here for a sec.

I look at naked lady bits all day long.

From the point of view of an ISM editor, I implore the world - don't shave yer pubes. don't do it. Just don't. Get waxed, cut 'em with scissors, get lasered, epilate (maybe) - there are so many great options for grooming. But for the love of image editors. Unless you're a super-experienced barber with an incredibly sharp straight-razor and the presence of mind to be extra-attentive to moisturizing and after care, just don't do it. Don't shave.

xo 2 cents

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