Woman selling her own virginity.

ngaio · 22-04-09 05:02:25

Pardon me for being a bit behind the ball if this has already been discussed, I just learned about it myself.

An article on it here: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ … 61,00.html

And her take on it: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- … virginity/

I am trying to be open minded about this one but honestly, it is really bothering me. The concept of there being any real value in viriginity has always disturbed me greatly and this is just freaking me out even more.

I mean, I'm all for women doing whatever they want with their body so my criticism is not of her... rather I am disturbed by the situation as a whole. Can somebody tell me it's ok and that this isn't really damn freaky? Please?

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blissed · 22-04-09 06:33:22

$5.8m!!! Jesus! I got diddly squat for my virginity, it's so unfair!

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richard · 22-04-09 15:17:13

She's researching a paper for her women's studies course. The contract of sale is not enforecable because even if the buyer pays, she can't be forced to deliver the goods and at worst can be sued to return the money. Therefore her virtue is safe, she profits from the publicity and the buyer would not pony up the likes of $5 million anyway so there won't even be a lawsuit.

blissed · 22-04-09 16:00:32

I'm gonna bid $15m.

I think she will get genuine offers tho and thats because a very uncool part of many male libido/ego is to have sex with a virgin and to be the 1st. It's a clear fantasy, because in reality it takes the interaction of at least 2 people to have sex and there, even just a bit of knowledge and experience can go a long way.

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ashmedi1 · 22-04-09 23:14:01

blissed wrote:

I think she will get genuine offers tho and thats because a very uncool part of many male libido/ego is to have sex with a virgin and to be the 1st. .

In my humble opinion, males who want a virgin want somebody who can't compare them to any other lover, they are very insecure and with a virgin, they are the best she has ever had.

ngaio · 23-04-09 02:04:18

Richard, it's not her "virtue" being hurt that bothers me, rather whatever compels these men to bid so much in the first place. I need to think more about it though, to figure out exactly why it bugs me so much.

Folly · 23-04-09 02:17:35

This shit goes on in many cultures. It's just when someone from the States does it that the world pays attention. At least she's taking control of the situation herself rather than being sold by her family because they need the money to live. And it will be a great experiment for her studies and a better money earner than general prostitution. However: thank god for HECS. (Australian scheme for higher education financial aid)

ngaio · 23-04-09 02:45:47

True, that!

By the way, hope you don't mind me linking to that site you found that's on this very topic:

http://fameandfortune.com.au/

blissed · 23-04-09 03:10:05

ngaio wrote:

Richard, it's not her "virtue" being hurt that bothers me, rather whatever compels these men to bid so much in the first place. I need to think more about it though, to figure out exactly why it bugs me so much.

OK $680,000,000,000,000,000 is definitely my last offer.

The huge bids are fake but in there is probly a real bid for $3000,
and here are some suggestions for what perhaps bothers you.
The concept of buying someone's virginity has twinges of pedophilia and undertones of the historical practice of selling your daughter,

Folly wrote:

At least she's taking control of the situation herself rather than being sold by her family because they need the money to live.

something thats way outside the moral compass of ours and other contemporary cultures.

Also the subconscious notion that virginity is more precious than sexuality or fertility. hence the word virtue being used here jovially because it reflects a really big chunk of the worlds perception and thats partly because something thats rare is valued more than something that isn't.

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blissed · 23-04-09 03:53:26

ngaio wrote:

True, that!
By the way, hope you don't mind me linking to that site you found that's on this very topic:
http://fameandfortune.com.au/

How would the man prove he's a virgin Lol

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ngaio · 23-04-09 04:24:56

I think you're definitely expressing some of the aspects of virginity being over valued that disturb me. I think it also has something to do with an obsession with the "new" and the idea of "defiling" a person. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with such a fantasy... it's just when it becomes something big like this that it bothers me.

On that note, here's an odd little article: http://carnalnation.com/content/5242/4/ … inity-porn

As for the male proving he's a virgin... er, a lie detector I suppose? How accurate are those things anyway?

It's an interesting concept for a documentary, in any case. I am interested to see how the male selling his virginity weighs up against the female. Actually, that brings up another thing that bothers me about the obsession with virginity - the double standard which often comes up of it being a virtue in women and a flaw in men.

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blissed · 23-04-09 05:25:26

Altho the issues in that area are valid the doc will almost certainly be fake, popular TV thinks an interesting subject has to be made entertaining, they don't realize the fact that if something is interesting, that makes it entertaining. I haven't had a TV since 2004 and so I watch video content on the net. That 5 years has altered my relativity quite a lot and whenever I see something thats from popular TV, it usually looks very very flimsy and almost pointless! :) and I'm kind of amazed people sit and watch it for hours, but then I did at one time too.
I always get a bit of a rant on when I talk about TV, and as for Hollywood stereotyping! don't get me started :)

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Folly · 23-04-09 06:38:24

Don't know that it is a "made for TV" doco. Seems independent to me.

ngaio · 23-04-09 06:39:04

From when I was 7 to 11 years old, my parents didn't let us have a TV (they told us it was broken and that they could not afford a new one, total lies which I figured out eventually, haha). At the time, I hated not having TV but now I'm grateful because it turned me into a bookworm and also meant I did a lot of arty, crafty stuff which I probably would not have otherwise.

These days I only watch TV when I'm sick at home and don't have the energy for anything else... usually that doesn't even last long because I end up angrily yelling and throwing the remote at Dr Phil.

All the good shows I download. Hooray the internet!

richard · 23-04-09 12:29:21

ngaio wrote:

Richard, it's not her "virtue" being hurt that bothers me, rather whatever compels these men to bid so much in the first place. I need to think more about it though, to figure out exactly why it bugs me so much.

They mostly aren't genuine bidders, they're participating in the stunt. Some would be 'saviours', intending to give her the money then let her off the hook with a stern lecture about virtue. I would bet there are more in that category than any other.

blissed · 23-04-09 13:26:54

Folly wrote:

Don't know that it is a "made for TV" doco. Seems independent to me.

I think a large amount of TV is made by independent production companies, it says it's a feature length film and I think praps a Michael Moore epic is their highest hope but looking at the feel of the thing including the budget site design, the idea seems aimed straight into TV land.

Actually I shouldn't make negative comments about something without showing a few examples of what I think is good video.

http://www.ted.com/

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

http://ellen.warnerbros.com/videos/

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blissed · 23-04-09 13:28:49

ngaio wrote:

usually that doesn't even last long because I end up angrily yelling and throwing the remote at Dr Phil.

Ha ha, OK lets test this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUB6OTqvFlI

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ashmedi1 · 23-04-09 22:55:27

ngaio wrote:

From when I was 7 to 11 years old, my parents didn't let us have a TV (they told us it was broken and that they could not afford a new one, .....

I apologize for hi-jacking the thread but your comment struck me as very humorous. I was born BEFORE TV, and my parents didn't buy a TV until they had been available for almost 12 years. What little TV I saw was a friends on a tiny B&W because my dad was convinced that TV was just a fad and would never last

theant · 24-04-09 01:48:46

ngaio wrote:

I am interested to see how the male selling his virginity weighs up against the female. Actually, that brings up another thing that bothers me about the obsession with virginity - the double standard which often comes up of it being a virtue in women and a flaw in men.

This interests me too. Would a man offering his virginity for sale get any offers at all? I imagine not, except in jest. Why is it that what a woman offers in terms of sex has a monetary value, while what a man offers has none?

ngaio · 24-04-09 01:52:11

richard wrote:

Some would be 'saviours', intending to give her the money then let her off the hook with a stern lecture about virtue. I would bet there are more in that category than any other.

That's a really interesting thought and somehow it bugs me almost as much to think of someone doing that, haha!

Blissed, I watched a few seconds of that and could not watch any more. Ugh. Just... ugh. That is just wrong on so many levels. I think the thing I hate most about Dr Phil is he plays the part of this morally upstanding, fatherly figure but he just exploits people and spouts "common wisdom" which people just gobble up. Ugh.

Ashmedi, wow! A fad! That's really kind of sweet and hard to imagine! Actually, you just reminded me of my father's account of when he first got a television but it had awful reception... they spent about an hour hypnotised by static and arguing about whether or not they could see a face in it!

blissed · 24-04-09 02:24:12

ngaio wrote:

I watched a few seconds of that and could not watch any more. Ugh. Just... ugh.

Yeah that clip is pretty damn awful. I wonder if kicking him up the ass would qualify as tough love

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ashmedi1 · 24-04-09 02:41:46

ngaio wrote:

Ashmedi, wow! A fad! That's really kind of sweet and hard to imagine! Actually, you just reminded me of my father's account of when he first got a television but it had awful reception... they spent about an hour hypnotised by static and arguing about whether or not they could see a face in it!

I remember the pioneer days, choice of rabbit ears (us) or rooftop arial (for the well-to-do), one local station, lousy programming, and yes, we also had a wicked time trying to make out anything with the amount of "snow". Makes me laugh these days when people complain about downloads or quality, they have no clue what it used to be like and what we put up with

ngaio · 24-04-09 03:07:51

Blissed, there's only one way to find out!

Ashmedi, that's actually something I'm going to try and keep in mind next time I complain about slow downloads at home!

TheEggMan · 24-04-09 05:26:16

Well the reason I have a virgin fixation is because I'm a sucker for first timers. I love taking my friends to new restaurants, watching one of my favorite DvDs with someone who hasn't seen it before, and watching the ecstasy unfold on their face as they cum for the first time. I guess my fixation isn't focused towards technical virgins, but the orgasm deprived. I imagine many of the bidders wouldn't care if she came or not. I wouldn't really care if she had already been penetrated. But being responsible for the first orgasm, who wouldn't enjoy that?!

ngaio · 24-04-09 08:19:54

The idea of giving someone their first ever orgasm is certainly appealing, I must admit!

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