This is the worst site I have ever seen...

xerarch · 05-05-07 11:39:06

I have to say this is among the worst sites I have viewed. Every scene is the same (some exceptions but none the less, horribly slim variety), it becomes boring and lame very fast. This is considering the fact that the content is extremely drab to begin with. I was disappointed within the first two to three videos I watched ( followed by several dozen with no improvement ). I warn you away from this site, unless you take pleasure from essentially soft core-solo/duo female pornography. There is no real visual detail here, no compelling close ups, no real lay out of the actual orgasm (constricting pussy and asshole, process which lead up to orgasm in visual detail). This site is very very poor, I give a rating of 0.01 out of a possible 10.

richard · 05-05-07 12:02:09

Cool. You seem to be in the minority though, as we have an extremely high member retention rate amongst adult sites.

Nynaeve · 05-05-07 12:17:08

How clever, xerarch! You got the site's concept immediately..

Not.

blissed · 05-05-07 12:20:11

Thousands of people would disagree with you, and I think posting this is extremely mean and pretty ridiculous considering your not reviewing a new camera and find the buttons to be awkward or something, your just communicating your personal taste. Other peoples tastes are different, thats why there are millions of sites out there. For me this is one of the best sites in the world and theres a real understanding here of how porn relates to real sex and sexuality and what is truly erotic. And when it's so obvious a great deal of care and commitment goes into everything here and your whole issue is one of personal preference anyway, I think unless someone is exactly like you, your post informs no-one and is just mean. Anyway, I think making good porn is cool, so please go away and find something you like and when you do, don't be mean, but show some kudos to the people who've made it.

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SPARTA · 05-05-07 14:25:06

X,

Like Abby Winter .Com ,Criticism is definitely NOT desired here.Learn that and you'll "adjust" far better.

Healthy, well endowed nubile girls sophomoric attempts of performance art and very poor lighting,usually while still clothed, pass here; as horny males pay our dues to watch the general lesbians agenda unfold.

The worst?Not really.There are hundreds of really filthy,disgusting extremely hard core Porn sites out there that frankly I'd pay triple NOT to see.

At least try to see the little they will allow you to see here(between the terrible lighting effects) of really naturally young beautiful girls(maybe the last small group on the planet)with the courage to get in front of the camera(as opposed to the shaved,skinny semi pro hookers on most other sites)and try to over look the administrative,technical and social political flaws that abound.

It ain't perfect(nothing ever is) but comparatively it still the best I've found ....so far.Now if they would only pay the damn light bill.

blissed · 05-05-07 15:30:24

Welcome to the forum Sparta :)

http://www.anniesprinkle.org/html/writi … eroes.html

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richard · 05-05-07 17:54:25

SPARTA wrote:

X,
Like Abby Winter .Com ,Criticism is definitely NOT desired here.Learn that and you'll "adjust" far better.
Healthy, well endowed nubile girls sophomoric attempts of performance art and very poor lighting,usually while still clothed, pass here; as horny males pay our dues to watch the general lesbians agenda unfold.
The worst?Not really.There are hundreds of really filthy,disgusting extremely hard core Porn sites out there that frankly I'd pay triple NOT to see.
At least try to see the little they will allow you to see here(between the terrible lighting effects) of really naturally young beautiful girls(maybe the last small group on the planet)with the courage to get in front of the camera(as opposed to the shaved,skinny semi pro hookers on most other sites)and try to over look the administrative,technical and social political flaws that abound.
It ain't perfect(nothing ever is) but comparatively it still the best I've found ....so far.Now if they would only pay the damn light bill.

Criticism is just fine here.

What you guys have in common is this obnoxious, self-centred idea that what you don't like, must therefore be 'wrong'. Your mysogyny and homophobia is putrid, and people like you help give healthy erotica the stigma it's afflicted with. We don't want you here. Your account is now closed and the unused portion of your subscription has been refunded. You'll find plenty of sites on the net who "pay their light bill" - give them your filthy lucre and jerk off until your dick gangreneates. Cheers!

tryggvi · 05-05-07 18:13:49

richard wrote:

What you guys have in common is this obnoxious, self-centred idea that what you don't like, must therefore be 'wrong'. Your mysogyny and homophobia is putrid, and people like you help give healthy erotica the stigma it's afflicted with. We don't want you here. Your account is now closed and the unused portion of your subscription has been refunded. You'll find plenty of sites on the net who "pay their light bill" - give them your filthy lucre and jerk off until your dick gangreneates. Cheers!

ROTFLMAO!

Well said, Richard!

blissed · 05-05-07 18:59:10

Yayy!! well done! :)

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kirejos · 05-05-07 20:40:46

richard wrote:

SPARTA wrote:
X,
Like Abby Winter .Com ,Criticism is definitely NOT desired here.Learn that and you'll "adjust" far better.
Healthy, well endowed nubile girls sophomoric attempts of performance art and very poor lighting,usually while still clothed, pass here; as horny males pay our dues to watch the general lesbians agenda unfold.
The worst?Not really.There are hundreds of really filthy,disgusting extremely hard core Porn sites out there that frankly I'd pay triple NOT to see.
At least try to see the little they will allow you to see here(between the terrible lighting effects) of really naturally young beautiful girls(maybe the last small group on the planet)with the courage to get in front of the camera(as opposed to the shaved,skinny semi pro hookers on most other sites)and try to over look the administrative,technical and social political flaws that abound.
It ain't perfect(nothing ever is) but comparatively it still the best I've found ....so far.Now if they would only pay the damn light bill.
Criticism is just fine here.
What you guys have in common is this obnoxious, self-centred idea that what you don't like, must therefore be 'wrong'.

Some people would refer to that kind of behavior as egocentric narcissism, a particular nuisance in anonymous online forums. I think that the wonderful people at IFM have been exceedingly tolerant of it in the past, only to be abused, and insulted for their patience.

Narcissism is considered a normal stage in the development of children. This is an adult website. It's also often found in combination with antisocial personality disorder.

cromin · 05-05-07 20:41:15

After reading this forum and seeing the kind of knee jerk reactions to its content people post i decided not to mention any views i had. Until today.

So for those who care, this is how I see it:

These people are not (as a rule, as is my understanding) professionals within the sex industry. The are not orgasm faking actresses. This is obvious from spending three seconds on the homepage. Especially because of the lack of pink and pigtails and the mentions of being "barely legal". This site has a designated market. Yes the content does look the same, in the same way that all of a particular bands music all sounds the same or a particular authors books all read the same. Its the results of an artist having a vision.

xerarch said "I warn you away from this site, unless you take pleasure from essentially soft core-solo/duo female pornography." This statement has exactly the same meaning as "I warn you off cola, unless you like the taste"

He/She (Covering my bases) then said "There is no real visual detail here, no compelling close ups, no real lay out of the actual orgasm (constricting pussy and asshole, process which lead up to orgasm in visual detail)." all I can say to that is, You've been watching too much porn.

Its not like this site falsely advertises itself

*****AND BREATH*****

The_Elfman · 05-05-07 23:13:35

I would like xerarch to have said what he does consider to be good sites. That might have been interesting. As for drab I don't think he can have seen "UP Close". I doubt if you could find a hotter, more original piece of erotic film making anywhere on the net.

gala · 05-05-07 23:48:41

You rock, Richard.

While I didn't really want to argue with these idiots because there's no use reasoning with someone who has no idea what we're on about, this comment has been made several times so I want to respond to it. The thing about all of our footage being the same is, I think, missing a critical piece of what we are trying to show. Maybe the shots are the same - a portion of our content is filmed in a standard way with three pretty standard angles - but what happens in them is not. Have a good look at these women and their styles and personalities and tecnhiques and expressions. Not a single one is exactly like any other. Sure, some of them share particular qualities, but the fact remains that we show you each person's uniqueness as best we can. Ironically, if you come here and complain to us that 'it all looks the same', it seems to me that you're probaby looking for something pretty specific yourself - a particular kind of woman with a particular type of orgasm, maybe even one with a 'constricting pussy and asshole'. If you think this is all the same, despite our departure from the porn standard of feminine beauty and of representing it, you're a stooge and I'm glad that so much mainstream porn exists out there for you, because you shouldn't be here. I know that doesn't sound very hospitable, but I don't think we have to cater to a mainstream audience and I don't think we have to tolerate folks who come here complaining when they obviously didn't take the time to figure out what they were signing up for anyway.

Desertgirl44 · 06-05-07 03:00:49

I agree with Gala, you rock Richard!

For anyone who doesn't get this site, please read Gala's comments in the post above. And follow her instruction "have a good look at these women and their styles ...". As she says, IFM shows the contributors' uniqueness. If you can't see that, then perhaps consider signing up to one of the mainstream porn sites that may suit you better. Oh, and please do read the IFM Credo page.

What other porn/erotica site leaves women feeling really good about themselves and their sexuality?

Keep up the good work IFM team.

padraic · 06-05-07 04:16:24

My thanks to Richard, Gala, Desertgirl, and others who responded to the obnoxious post that started this thread. My only comment is that I think we've been here before. Isn't there some way to pre-screen these toxic messages so that, if they are really of no value to anyone, they can just be deleted and forgotten?

sonner · 06-05-07 05:37:18

Hello,

Although i totally disagree with the original poster, i think he or she is entitled to an opinion. If people start censoring the posters in here i don't think you're doing any good. You can censor on words or language that is not appropriate, but not on opinions. That's my opinion.

Greetings from Belgium

kirejos · 06-05-07 07:36:01

The_Elfman wrote:

I would like xerarch to have said what he does consider to be good sites.

He probably doesn't know of any, doesn't know what he wants, and expresses his frustration by complaining and trying to bring everyone else down with him. I actually feel kind of sorry for him if he can't appreciate the beautiful women at IFM. I sense a fair amount of disfunction in him from what he said.

padraic wrote:

Isn't there some way to pre-screen these toxic messages so that, if they are really of no value to anyone, they can just be deleted and forgotten?

The enigma member, these people baffle me, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Doesn't it always boil down to this- "If you don't like it then leave". It's amazing to me that they actually need other people to tell them that. Maybe its easier for them to justify their anger that way.

There will always be contrarian antagonists around to bitch and moan. They try to leech off of everyone else's positive energy by calling attention to their emotional "pain and suffering", which is usually a veil to cover their depressive perfectionism, and self-loathing. They are usually very conflicted, they hate other people, but need them at the same time. It doesn't surprise me to see that he paid for membership at IFM, but criticized the content. IFM is very fair about advertising itself with generous previews before signing up, he couldn't have been surprised by the content. The best thing to do is treat it like the nuisance it is, and brush it off. No-one here can "change" him, just like he can't "change" the people at IFM by complaining about the content.

sonner wrote:

Although i totally disagree with the original poster, i think he or she is entitled to an opinion.

Ditto, just like we are entitled to opine about his opinion. Censorship would make for an extremely boring forum.

Too, I wouldn't over-analyze anything without whipping up a good conspiracy theory. Here- He works for a competitor in online porn, and is trying to supress the extreme popularity of IFM with subversive forum posts. "I'll join, and then start a member mutiny by calling everything they offer crap." Hmm? Sound plausible? Okay, maybe I have my own issues

kirejos · 06-05-07 07:49:38

Oh yeah,

gala wrote:

If you think this is all the same, despite our departure from the porn standard of feminine beauty and of representing it, you're a stooge and I'm glad that so much mainstream porn exists out there for you, because you shouldn't be here.

Gala, you rock

padraic · 06-05-07 08:02:54

kirejos wrote:

sonner wrote:
Although i totally disagree with the original poster, i think he or she is entitled to an opinion.
Ditto, just like we are entitled to opine about his opinion. Censorship would make for an extremely boring forum.

I'm not pro-censorship by any means. And everyone is entitled to an opinion. I don't agree though that people are 'entitled' to express that opinion in any disrespectful, inflammatory way they please. There's nothing about being a freedom-loving human being that requires us to be subjected to abusive or demeaning statements. My point isn't to encourage censorship, but to save us from fighting this same old tired battle with another disagreeable person who only wants to make all of us feel bad. I'm not sure that someone like this poster is even worth the trouble of trying to refute, or of getting upset over.
Perhaps Richard made the ultimate statement of values, however, when he told the bugger that he was cancelled and no longer welcome here.

kirejos · 06-05-07 08:37:08

padraic wrote:

kirejos wrote:
sonner wrote:
Although i totally disagree with the original poster, i think he or she is entitled to an opinion.
Ditto, just like we are entitled to opine about his opinion. Censorship would make for an extremely boring forum.
I'm not pro-censorship by any means. And everyone is entitled to an opinion. I don't agree though that people are 'entitled' to express that opinion in any disrespectful, inflammatory way they please. There's nothing about being a freedom-loving human being that requires us to be subjected to abusive or demeaning statements. My point isn't to encourage censorship, but to save us from fighting this same old tired battle with another disagreeable person who only wants to make all of us feel bad. I'm not sure that someone like this poster is even worth the trouble of trying to refute, or of getting upset over.
Perhaps Richard made the ultimate statement of values, however, when he told the bugger that he was cancelled and no longer welcome here.

Well said, you're right. We're probably better off not letting someone like that "rent space in our heads", it's not worth it. I'll save the rest of my venom for the next ill-mannered ass-wipe.

gala · 06-05-07 09:52:48

padraic wrote:

My point isn't to encourage censorship, but to save us from fighting this same old tired battle with another disagreeable person who only wants to make all of us feel bad. I'm not sure that someone like this poster is even worth the trouble of trying to refute, or of getting upset over.

Yeah, I don't know if I've said this out loud here before, but I've thought it several times: sometimes I'm irritated that we, myself included, indulge the complaints and disrespect of folks who are just going to come in, say shitty things about us and our contributors, and leave after a month (if they even stick around for more than their first post). In my opinion we do have a little community-type-thing going here, which is certainly always open to new folks and new ideas, and it frustrates me when we put energy into people who are going to have no accountability whatsoever to that community, or to just being decent in general, which I reckon is a nice thing to do in a forum.

On the other hand, sometimes it feels good to tell people to fuck off when they're being jerkfaces. That being said, I do get tired of having the same arguments all the time.

The_Elfman · 06-05-07 11:34:19

kirejos wrote:

padraic wrote:
kirejos wrote:
Ditto, just like we are entitled to opine about his opinion. Censorship would make for an extremely boring forum.
I'm not pro-censorship by any means. And everyone is entitled to an opinion. I don't agree though that people are 'entitled' to express that opinion in any disrespectful, inflammatory way they please. There's nothing about being a freedom-loving human being that requires us to be subjected to abusive or demeaning statements. My point isn't to encourage censorship, but to save us from fighting this same old tired battle with another disagreeable person who only wants to make all of us feel bad. I'm not sure that someone like this poster is even worth the trouble of trying to refute, or of getting upset over.
Perhaps Richard made the ultimate statement of values, however, when he told the bugger that he was cancelled and no longer welcome here.
Well said, you're right. We're probably better off not letting someone like that "rent space in our heads", it's not worth it. I'll save the rest of my venom for the next ill-mannered ass-wipe.

To be honest if I had seen the opening post in this thread early I would have killed it. To my mind it had "Troll" written all over it. We have been here so many times recently and it always ends up the same way. The faithful ardently defending IFM, its contributors and its principals. We have nothing to gain by such a discussion. It's tired and a waste of bandwidth.

I also feel that there is a very real danger which accompanies such a discussion. If we aren't careful we could develop a knee-jerk reaction where we immediately jump on anyone who says anything which might be interpreted as not 100% in praise of IFM. This could stifle reasonable, healthy discussion and make members afraid to post anything they feel might leave them open to a barrage of attacks.

I have a suggestion to make. If anything like the opening post of this thread appears again don't respond to it. It only encourages "Trollism". Leave it for me or one of the other moderators to delete the post.

The best piece of advice I received on another forum was "Don't feed the Troll".

Elfman.

Will · 06-05-07 15:50:05

I like cheesecake. It makes me happy.

ashmedi · 06-05-07 17:31:13

The_Elfman wrote:

"Don't feed the Troll".
Elfman.

Precisely why I didn't respond, and why this will be my last post in this thread

aven frey · 07-05-07 02:44:49

To be honest I'm glad this thread didn't get deleted, its fun when Richard gets all spikey!! I kinda also like the odd troll, they're fun to poke sticks at! I know though sometimes it can get a bit unfun for some.

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