A new service for IFM ?

alsbosilver · 04-08-21 07:41:11

Since we are here, subscribers to this unique site dedicated to female masturbation, that we participate in the forum and that we look at new contributions every day, it is because we fully assume the fact that masturbation is an essential element of our life sexual. We all masturbate often or even very often, for a long time and I hope for always ... One thing, however, is lacking in this practice, I find, is to be able to share it on the phone or in audio service like Skype and I imagine that a number of men and women like to do it with strangers. I looked everywhere on the Internet for sites which would make it possible to put in relation men and women who like to do it and I never found anything serious, except proposals of "pink telephone" where the hostesses pretend and where we pay dearly for nothing. Why not imagine the creation on IFM of a service for connecting people who would like to do it in this way? Belonging to our IFM group would be a guarantee of security and confidentiality.

Christian (France)

troyforyou · 05-08-21 00:33:55

No thank you!

Hilda1958 · 05-08-21 03:18:47

Not interested, but thank you.

smoothed · 05-08-21 06:42:47

i believe services like that exist already.

_redbird_ · 05-08-21 07:03:54

I'm sure there's people who are willing to talk someone off for free but they're a bit trickier to find. I'm not sure where to look, but there must be groups on Reddit or something right?

Being sexual for another's viewing and/or listening pleasure takes a lot of energy. While these images and videos look effortless and like it's just a matter of turning the camera on and getting to it, the reality is that there are times when it's a lot more difficult to work up the sexual energy required for these shoots than it may look. You have to expose this personal side of yourself while being aware of how you will be perceived both physically and otherwise. We understand that there's these assumptions and expectations placed on us before we've even started but have to push through anyway.

I know it's not what you want to hear, but supporting sex work financially any way you can is always worthwhile in my opinion. Perhaps you can find an online friend that will chat to you for free, but in the meantime why not investigate further and find one what works for you financially and fills your emotional needs and pay these people for their services?

alsbosilver · 05-08-21 08:46:47

smoothed wrote:

i believe services like that exist already.

Do you really think so? I searched a lot and I did not find. I think indeed that this kind of service should really exist. If you find something between individuals who like this practice, let us know! Thanks for your answer anyway!

alsbosilver · 05-08-21 09:10:55

_redbird_ wrote:

I'm sure there's people who are willing to talk someone off for free but they're a bit trickier to find. I'm not sure where to look, but there must be groups on Reddit or something right?
Being sexual for another's viewing and/or listening pleasure takes a lot of energy. While these images and videos look effortless and like it's just a matter of turning the camera on and getting to it, the reality is that there are times when it's a lot more difficult to work up the sexual energy required for these shoots than it may look. You have to expose this personal side of yourself while being aware of how you will be perceived both physically and otherwise. We understand that there's these assumptions and expectations placed on us before we've even started but have to push through anyway.
I know it's not what you want to hear, but supporting sex work financially any way you can is always worthwhile in my opinion. Perhaps you can find an online friend that will chat to you for free, but in the meantime why not investigate further and find one what works for you financially and fills your emotional needs and pay these people for their services?

Thank you for your message and for shedding light on your experience. But in my mind, it's not about paid sex work at all but just connecting men and women who love to hear each other masturbate, their voice, their breathing, their sighs, even their little noises. of the hand on the sex. Without seeing the person, the experience is absolutely unique and overwhelming because it opens the door to all fantasies since precisely, we do not see ... the imagination is multiplied tenfold. I am used to chatting and for many years I have had the opportunity to have women on the phone, some just once, others for a much longer period. But for some time now, it has become almost impossible to be able to carry out this practice. Women are happy to masturbate in written dialogue, by doing scripts, or by describing their masturbation and their emotions in real time, but no longer on the phone. Many of them tell me that the written word suits them better than the voice and that some have been the victim of harassment by rude and unscrupulous men, especially since the advent of cell phones and social media. I would love to have testimonials from women who like to masturbate in this way, I must say.

richard · 05-08-21 09:37:35

It sounds great to you, but it's not something a lot of women would be interested in, unless with somebody they know or you're paying them. That's why there are phone sex lines. For every woman who wants to do it with a random there are probably a hundred men or more. So how's that going to work? But yeah, nup, not something Feck would ever get involved in.

_redbird_ · 06-08-21 03:34:47

Hmm yeah I don't know what to tell you alsbosilver but what you're describing isn't something that's likely to happen, especially if you're wanting this from a SW. That kind of emotional, mental, and sexual energy shouldn't be expected to be issued to you by a stranger for free. Something like that could possibly be found in a romantic partner or a casual hook up type situation, but like Richard said, the likelihood of someone wanting to take that on solely for the thrill of it isn't great.

alsbosilver · 06-08-21 08:56:40

_redbird_ wrote:

Hmm yeah I don't know what to tell you alsbosilver but what you're describing isn't something that's likely to happen, especially if you're wanting this from a SW. That kind of emotional, mental, and sexual energy shouldn't be expected to be issued to you by a stranger for free. Something like that could possibly be found in a romantic partner or a casual hook up type situation, but like Richard said, the likelihood of someone wanting to take that on solely for the thrill of it isn't great.

Thank you for your message and for thinking about my post. As I said, I have been used for at least 30 years to chat on different sites like XYZ or Coolsmile, in particular. I have had hundreds of conversations about masturbation with women of all ages, and I continue several times a week. If all seem to enjoy describing their masturbation, their habits, also asking me questions, talking about it very freely, and doing sessions together by writing to each other, few, it is true, agree to do it over the phone. You have to be very patient at times and engage in a real intimate and empathetic dialogue, gently, in the beauty of this act without coarseness or vulgarity, obviously, like a very precious subject. But I can assure you that I was able to have dozens of women who enjoyed this practice during all these years. I even have a woman with whom I still do it from time to time since 1996 ... It was not uncommon that, when I asked them the question "Do you like to do it on the phone", some answered directly "yes" and we called each other sometimes just once or for some this telephone relationship lasted weeks or months. Usually these women were alone and as soon as they met someone, our conversations stopped, which is quite normal. For some it was the first time and they were getting a taste for it, for others it was just the experience of once. What I mean in fact is that for 4 or 5 years, if women tell me that they have had the experience of doing it on the phone, they do not want to do it again for different reasons, the first of which seems to be. 'they fell on dishonest, rude men who harassed her (and yet I always offer to call myself in masked number and I very rarely have the direct number.) So, is it about 'a change of society, of habit, of confidence? In any case, I find it an interesting subject to discuss and I remain convinced that a certain number (very small, obviously) of women appreciate this unique moment of intimacy, in the warmth of voices and in the gentle control of everyone's orgasm and in the tenfold fantasy of doing it with a stranger whose vision you cannot see. Perhaps some women who frequent this site could testify. Thanks again, but I agree with you: the possibility of this happening is not great!

alsbosilver · 06-08-21 09:04:06

richard wrote:

It sounds great to you, but it's not something a lot of women would be interested in, unless with somebody they know or you're paying them. That's why there are phone sex lines. For every woman who wants to do it with a random there are probably a hundred men or more. So how's that going to work? But yeah, nup, not something Feck would ever get involved in.

Yes, you are right, Richard, men appreciate this practice more than women who fantasize much better about written dialogue. But, from having tried once or twice, you know very well that the sex phone lines are run by hostesses who drink their coffee or brush their nails and say to you "Go on honey, jerk off well ... that's it. good eh ... Hmm Hmmm "and who utter little fake cries while pretending to masturbate! I understand your position very well while continuing to think that in all the women who frequent this site and for whom masturbation is a necessity and a fascination, there are quite a few who enjoy doing it over the phone. Thanks for commenting on this topic!

privignus · 07-08-21 01:30:19

alsbosilver, I think that depends on the phone sex worker (and the customer)! Just like any other thing with other people, you have to do the work to meet a variety of people and communities until you find one you 'click' with!

I think hyperballad said that she has done some phone sex work.

alsbosilver · 07-08-21 09:35:46

privignus wrote:

alsbosilver, I think that depends on the phone sex worker (and the customer)! Just like any other thing with other people, you have to do the work to meet a variety of people and communities until you find one you 'click' with!
I think hyperballad said that she has done some phone sex work.

Yes you are probably probably right, I was sharing my rare experiences which were not at all conclusive! Indeed, I seem to have read comments from our friend Hyperballad where she was talking about sex on the phone. It would be nice if she took part in this discussion. Thank you for your interest in this subject
(are you a man or a woman ?)

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privignus · 08-08-21 07:58:30

I am a man.

alsbosilver · 08-08-21 09:01:06

privignus wrote:

I am a man.

Thank you !

smoothed · 08-08-21 10:41:11

and i'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body

smoothed · 09-08-21 02:04:40

smoothed wrote:

and i'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body

alsbosilver, what i meant by my slightly facetious response, is that while I do not fully grasp why the need to identify a person's gender in any way augments their forum posts, may I suggest that you phrase your query as such: "May I know which gender you identify as?"

The reason for this suggestion is twofold: firstly, I recognise English may not be your first language. When you simply ask "Are you a man or a woman?", you may think it comes across directly and unambigiously, but it can also appear rude and demanding. secondly, i'm very sure many contributors and subscribers do not simply identify to the binary gender classifications, and phrasing your query as such allows for those among us who don't see themselves as male or female to feel more included.

hope this helps! happy to chat more about this.

Mikaela · 10-08-21 08:58:40

smoothed wrote:

smoothed wrote:
and i'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body
alsbosilver, what i meant by my slightly facetious response, is that while I do not fully grasp why the need to identify a person's gender in any way augments their forum posts, may I suggest that you phrase your query as such: "May I know which gender you identify as?"
The reason for this suggestion is twofold: firstly, I recognise English may not be your first language. When you simply ask "Are you a man or a woman?", you may think it comes across directly and unambigiously, but it can also appear rude and demanding. secondly, i'm very sure many contributors and subscribers do not simply identify to the binary gender classifications, and phrasing your query as such allows for those among us who don't see themselves as male or female to feel more included.
hope this helps! happy to chat more about this.

Thanks for this Smoothed, it's great to open discussion around this and bring awareness to gender identity outside that of the traditional binary options! Yay for inclusion

alsbosilver · 14-08-21 08:34:38

Mikaela wrote:

smoothed wrote:
smoothed wrote:
and i'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body
alsbosilver, what i meant by my slightly facetious response, is that while I do not fully grasp why the need to identify a person's gender in any way augments their forum posts, may I suggest that you phrase your query as such: "May I know which gender you identify as?"
The reason for this suggestion is twofold: firstly, I recognise English may not be your first language. When you simply ask "Are you a man or a woman?", you may think it comes across directly and unambigiously, but it can also appear rude and demanding. secondly, i'm very sure many contributors and subscribers do not simply identify to the binary gender classifications, and phrasing your query as such allows for those among us who don't see themselves as male or female to feel more included.
hope this helps! happy to chat more about this.
Thanks for this Smoothed, it's great to open discussion around this and bring awareness to gender identity outside that of the traditional binary options! Yay for inclusion

Problem is, this has nothing to do with the topic of the discussion I started ... Maybe you can create a great topic for discussion on gender, sexual identity, men, women, etc. all these topical subjects which seem to concern a lot of people! As far as I am concerned, I am a heterosexual man who loves women, their bodies, their voices, their sensitivity and their sensuality, their intelligence, their culture in a word everything is beautiful in a woman. ^^ It is to identify me, moreover, that I published my photo and that I sign my publications with my real first name. I'm not ashamed of it at all!
Christian (France)

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smoothed · 14-08-21 15:40:39

alsbosilver, or Christian, if I may, all of this actually is related to the topic you started, as well as many others which you've started here on the IFM forum. The "service" you suggested is primarily rooted in a male cishet view of sexual relations, with minimal awareness of the emotional labour that non-male identifying and/or non-heterosexual individuals have been made to bear on our behalf.

Furthermore, you've constantly inquired publicly on these forums about if people are either male or female, when in reality it has no bearing on the discussion at hand. It's great that you're not ashamed on your sexuality, but are you making space for those who may not wish to trumpet their own preferences or sensibilities so loudly? there are people who do not feel comfortable displaying their real faces or names here, how might you make them feel more comfortable around you?

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privignus · 15-08-21 02:44:37

Also, this forum is international. So a male experience in one country might not be typically male in another. So knowing someone's sex or gender is not always helpful.

alsbosilver wrote:

It is to identify me, moreover, that I published my photo and that I sign my publications with my real first name. I'm not ashamed of it at all!
Christian (France)

It is not just about personal, internal shame though, its also what other people could do to us and the people we care about. There is a woman in the USA who got fired when someone told her employer that she was naked on the Internet. Once information about you is on the Internet, you can't take it down if it suddenly becomes dangerous. Remember the Dutch census of 1940 processed by the latest technology from International Business Machines? A few months later having a quick way to list every Dutch person with a Jewish grandparent was not such a good thing.

alsbosilver · 16-08-21 09:17:46

Dear Smoothed and Privignus,

Thank you for your long and interesting posts and for your interest in my publications. I am very annoyed to see that you consider my questioning to know if I am discussing with a woman or a man, relates to an intrusion, an infringement of freedoms, any manipulation ... I want to respect the freedom of each of course. We are in a very fashionable ideological debate in which I do not want to take part because it is totally foreign to me. I wish you the best and many more emotions on the wonderful IFM!

Christian (France)

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smoothed · 16-08-21 11:20:20

alsbosilver wrote:

Dear Smoothed and Privignus,
Thank you for your long and interesting posts and for your interest in my publications. I am very annoyed to see that you consider my questioning to know if I am discussing with a woman or a man, relates to an intrusion, an infringement of freedoms, any manipulation ... I want to respect the freedom of each of course. We are in a very fashionable ideological debate in which I do not want to take part because it is totally foreign to me. I wish you the best and many more emotions on the wonderful IFM!
Christian (France)

before you take umbrage and get annoyed, perhaps consider why more than one individual here on the forum is putting forward such a view on your forum posts. We've engaged you in a spirit of openness and winsomeness, I believe. And we are all here to learn. Also, if this "fashionable ideological debate" is foreign to you - one can choose to open one's mind and engage, or flee completely.

I will have to ask, Christian, if it is revealed that many of the contributors here that you greatly admire do not see this debate as merely fashionable or ideological, but necessary and fundamental to their expression of sexuality, how would that make you feel?

_redbird_ · 17-08-21 01:35:06

smoothed wrote:

alsbosilver, or Christian, if I may, all of this actually is related to the topic you started, as well as many others which you've started here on the IFM forum. The "service" you suggested is primarily rooted in a male cishet view of sexual relations, with minimal awareness of the emotional labour that non-male identifying and/or non-heterosexual individuals have been made to bear on our behalf.
Furthermore, you've constantly inquired publicly on these forums about if people are either male or female, when in reality it has no bearing on the discussion at hand. It's great that you're not ashamed on your sexuality, but are you making space for those who may not wish to trumpet their own preferences or sensibilities so loudly? there are people who do not feel comfortable displaying their real faces or names here, how might you make them feel more comfortable around you?

Holy heck smoothed did you crawl into my brain and read my mind? This is perfectly and beautifully said and I agree wholeheartedly. One of my main gripes with this whole idea is the emotional labour expected of someone, and for free (or perhaps just very cheap?) at that.

smoothed · 17-08-21 08:44:54

_redbird_ wrote:

Holy heck smoothed did you crawl into my brain and read my mind? This is perfectly and beautifully said and I agree wholeheartedly. One of my main gripes with this whole idea is the emotional labour expected of someone, and for free (or perhaps just very cheap?) at that.

<3 means a lot coming from you. we try to be better every day. the work goes on, we work together.

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