Do you find short/bald haired women feminine?

A.K · 09-08-13 15:06:57

Can women with short/bald still be ultra feminine? Thoughts?

WLV612 · 09-08-13 17:17:14

In my opinion, and take it for what it's worth, femininity is no more connected with hair than masculinity. I think a woman can be as feminine as she chooses, hair not withstanding. It's a state of being, not a physical set of, "Must Haves".
Amiee Mullins lost both legs from the knees down at an early age and she's a top model and very, very feminine. If she shaved her hair, she'd still be a stunning beauty.

A.K · 09-08-13 19:10:41

I agree whole hearted, In talking with my friends 90% felt that their hair was a defining part of their image as a woman...as important as the clothes they wear.

aven frey · 12-08-13 01:38:18

Halle Berry.

richard · 12-08-13 01:42:33

A.K wrote:

I agree whole hearted, In talking with my friends 90% felt that their hair was a defining part of their image as a woman...as important as the clothes they wear.

Probably more important. The site statistics seem to support that.

aven frey · 12-08-13 02:04:48

One of my favourite things about Jalen Rose (Fab five, NBA shooting guard, ESPN analyst, Grantland really cool dude) is his love of the ladies with the Halle Berry haircut. There is definitely plenty of men and women out there who think that short hair is beautiful and or hot (they just might not be subscribed to this site).

Really I think great hair is having a cut that suits your face. I would have a pixie cut in a second if my chin was more defined.

WLV612 · 12-08-13 02:53:17

Key phrase; "...a defining part of their image as a woman. A lot of female contributors on IFM have wonderfully colorful and imaginative hair styles which I assume help them define that image. I've never made a secret of the fact that I find certain contributor's hair style, length or color a part of their charm, however, only a part. Were someone to make a change for their own image identity, it wouldn't alter in the least my perception of the person I've come to know in the context or confines of IFM. Image is a part of identity and each person, male or female should establish and embrace their identity and let no one dictate that identity for or to them. If you're not who you are, you're living a lie.

viva · 12-08-13 03:38:25

Beautiful girl, beautiful me.

aven frey · 12-08-13 06:32:33

beautiful!

kypris · 12-08-13 08:42:39

Just have a look at Edie's bodhisattva:

http://forum.ifeelmyself.com/forum/view … p?id=14805

WLV612 · 12-08-13 10:17:41

aven frey wrote:

beautiful!

Agreed.

NIKITO · 12-08-13 11:08:57

WLV612 wrote:

aven frey wrote:
beautiful!
Agreed.

YES !!

viva · 13-08-13 01:14:10

Edie's Up Close was also one of the most sensual videos I've seen here.

viva · 13-08-13 01:20:08

I find that a lot of times when women I know personally shave their heads completely, they become more feminine to me. That has a lot to do with my own vision of femininity and perhaps my experience having a shaved head. I think removing all the hair on one's head makes a person look ultra vulnerable, ultra naked. Delicate and exposed. Strong in her openness... the very essence of femininity to me.

I think the vast majority of heterosexual men prefer long hair on women. But it's foolish and limited to define one's concept of femininity based on what the majority of heterosexual men prefer. Femininity and masculinity aren't functions of attraction only, they are also functions of self-identification.

The vast majority of people in western society, not only hetero men, also believe that a woman's body hair is at best masculine, at worst unclean. Now where's a picture of my armpits when I need one...

viva · 13-08-13 01:21:53

AK, my answer to you is yes, of course, absolutely a woman with no hair can be ultra feminine.

bagworm · 13-08-13 03:41:59

Probably in each person's personal definition of is already the answer. We each are going to take the question slightly differently. Because there is no answer as to what is feminine - the word itself just kind of points a finger at females.

It's being like a female? Like any female? Or the one with the most common features, or the one with the awesomest features? Awesome to that creature itself or to other creatures? It just doesn't yield much as a term, its whole purpose as a term seems to be to flex and catch.

We have plenty of hangups and attachments as to what we should be and what others should be but there is zero answer to that. There is just freedom, including the freedom to define questions that have their own answer built into how you see the question.

That being said, I prefer the broad spiritual kind of yin-yang definition of feminine. The yielding or engulfing principle vs. the penetrating seeking principle. And then I look at hair on a woman and I find I'm not being told much about these principles either way... the physical doesn't tell me much except inasmuch as it's is encoded in layers and layers of culture and talk and.. oh yeah milliosn of years of sex and death. But we definitely shouldn't be fooled by culture and talk and I think even with the millions of years of sex and death it still has to come down to us being free to play.

I think what I fight against is when being feminine, or masculine, or any other named thing, gains an implicit badge of virtue, such that we start to define it so we fit it, or so that those we like, fit it. Like feminine has to be beautiful and beautiful has to be visually so, and all that is virtue. Why not just start with beauty and say "is X beautiful" and bypass feminine.

Now, of course, the "being" part is worth noting. There's what you see as feminine in others, and what you see as feminine in yourself. That goes back to how we were defining things.

If being feminine involves an internal sense of being, I daresay that tends to eclipse what others see from the outside. Because there's not a person viewing from the outside, whose sense, or at least their language, wouldn't be changed by seeing from within you. If after that they say "no, that's not what I call 'feminine'" then fine - whatever it was, they know it now, and that's enough. They'll be grateful to have known something so closely, and naming it to each other isn't important once you've shared it.

Obviously in an internal sense one can feel profoundly feminine or masculine or both. Because minds can be free like that, and free to find the aspects of their body that fit that or underline that for them. So from there, to an external view, it's only a matter of empathizing and coming to understand what those aspects are. But again it never is going to come down to what name is given it, it just comes down to those fundamental experiences of it.

Anyways - that's probably "duh", I am just meandering, disagreeing with nobody for the sake of exploring the topic.

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nio · 14-08-13 02:40:44

viva wrote:

I think the vast majority of heterosexual men prefer long hair on women. But it's foolish and limited to define one's concept of femininity based on what the majority of heterosexual men prefer. Femininity and masculinity aren't functions of attraction only, they are also functions of self-identification.

I love you. I visit these forums mostly to stalk the things you and Aven say.

WLV612 · 15-08-13 17:30:09

nio wrote:

viva wrote:
I think the vast majority of heterosexual men prefer long hair on women. But it's foolish and limited to define one's concept of femininity based on what the majority of heterosexual men prefer. Femininity and masculinity aren't functions of attraction only, they are also functions of self-identification.
I love you. I visit these forums mostly to stalk the things you and Aven say.

As do I. Like interacting with Mark Twain, Dorothy Parker, Anaïs Nin and Groucho Marx all rolled into one (Two), with a dash of Andy Warhol for flavor and color. I must admit, I find having exchanges with some of the very intellectual and intelligent posters can be a bit intimidating. I have to copy read each post several times and even then, I feel I'm way over my head.

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viva · 16-08-13 01:11:07

omg WLV, me too!

A.K · 31-08-13 02:06:37

Thank you Viva Thank you all...its nice to hear the different sexes perception on what defines femininity.

A.K · 31-08-13 02:08:24

bagworm wrote:

Probably in each person's personal definition of is already the answer. We each are going to take the question slightly differently. Because there is no answer as to what is feminine - the word itself just kind of points a finger at females.
It's being like a female? Like any female? Or the one with the most common features, or the one with the awesomest features? Awesome to that creature itself or to other creatures? It just doesn't yield much as a term, its whole purpose as a term seems to be to flex and catch.
We have plenty of hangups and attachments as to what we should be and what others should be but there is zero answer to that. There is just freedom, including the freedom to define questions that have their own answer built into how you see the question.
That being said, I prefer the broad spiritual kind of yin-yang definition of feminine. The yielding or engulfing principle vs. the penetrating seeking principle. And then I look at hair on a woman and I find I'm not being told much about these principles either way... the physical doesn't tell me much except inasmuch as it's is encoded in layers and layers of culture and talk and.. oh yeah milliosn of years of sex and death. But we definitely shouldn't be fooled by culture and talk and I think even with the millions of years of sex and death it still has to come down to us being free to play.
I think what I fight against is when being feminine, or masculine, or any other named thing, gains an implicit badge of virtue, such that we start to define it so we fit it, or so that those we like, fit it. Like feminine has to be beautiful and beautiful has to be visually so, and all that is virtue. Why not just start with beauty and say "is X beautiful" and bypass feminine.
Now, of course, the "being" part is worth noting. There's what you see as feminine in others, and what you see as feminine in yourself. That goes back to how we were defining things.
If being feminine involves an internal sense of being, I daresay that tends to eclipse what others see from the outside. Because there's not a person viewing from the outside, whose sense, or at least their language, wouldn't be changed by seeing from within you. If after that they say "no, that's not what I call 'feminine'" then fine - whatever it was, they know it now, and that's enough. They'll be grateful to have known something so closely, and naming it to each other isn't important once you've shared it.
Obviously in an internal sense one can feel profoundly feminine or masculine or both. Because minds can be free like that, and free to find the aspects of their body that fit that or underline that for them. So from there, to an external view, it's only a matter of empathizing and coming to understand what those aspects are. But again it never is going to come down to what name is given it, it just comes down to those fundamental experiences of it.
Anyways - that's probably "duh", I am just meandering, disagreeing with nobody for the sake of exploring the topic.

Are you male or female?

MS2020 · 15-04-21 23:15:02

viva wrote:

Beautiful girl, beautiful me.
http://i.minus.com/ibf4L1qyvtR101.jpg

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I'd like to see what shorted haired Viva looked like if you can find it again.

viva · 19-04-21 01:11:38

the first time I shaved my head, 2009:

and a few from the second time, 2016

D1vQvrY.jpg?1

ZwA1Yal.jpg?1

nWfhTml.jpg?1

<3

MS2020 · 19-04-21 03:41:40

viva wrote:

the first time I shaved my head, 2009:
https://i.imgur.com/qVTWKHL.jpg
and a few from the second time, 2016
https://i.imgur.com/D1vQvrY.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/ZwA1Yal.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/nWfhTml.jpg?1
<3

SQUUUUUUEEEEEE!

Oh Viva! You look radiant in these! So beautiful.

So nice to have you back in the forums too.

Last edited by MS2020 (19-04-21 03:42:27)

viva · 19-04-21 04:45:10

Thanks MS!!

Yeah I was sick all last week it was horrible I NEVER get sick and I hate being sick!! So glad to be back.

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