Cunt

Laney · 15-07-16 07:52:57

Hey everybody,

I'd like to hear your thoughts on the word 'cunt'. In my opinion, people who own cunts also own the usage of the word, so I'm most interested to hear from you. People who don't own cunts are also welcome to comment.

As an Aussie, I most often hear this word used as a joking, slang term of endearment eg. "that DJ is a sick cunt".

Secondly, I hear it used as an insult, usually aimed at men eg. "that DJ is a selfish cunt".

Thirdly, I hear it used by women in a sexy/reclaimed sense, to refer to their cunt, eg. "that DJ makes my cunt so wet".

I rarely ever hear/see it used by men to refer to lady bits, or to women generally, but I guess it must happen.

Personally I find its slang usage (sick cunt) funny and cute, not offensive at all. I don't find it offensive when women refer to their pussies as cunts, actually I find it stronger, more of an active term than "pussy", and it's hot. Used by men in reference to women in a neutral (eg. "she touched her cunt") or positive way (eg. "I worship your cunt") isn't offensive to me either.

Used as an insult it is, of course, insulting, but it looks like it's slowly losing its offensive connotations, at least from where I'm standing.

What do you think?

Further reading
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/lauri … -cunt-hint

aven frey · 15-07-16 09:06:05

Just quickly, cause it's closing time...
I actually prefer 'cunt' to 'pussy'! I've talked about this with friends and the term 'pussy' has become squeamish and a bit gross to some of us, kinda like 'moist'.

I think my preference for the term 'cunt' is that it's been seen as such an offensive term for so long that it's never been commandeered and used to describe and commodify our sexuality in the way the 'pussy' has.

ThatIndividual · 16-07-16 00:43:16

I hear it so rarely that it's novel when I do. It might be less used where I live or I don't get out much.

viva · 16-07-16 10:27:42

in conversation I usually say vag or cooch. in bed I usually refer to 'me' or get specific about parts, so it might sound like, put your fingers inside me, touch my clit, make me wet - that kind of thing! when writing smut I might use any and all the words depending on the tone I am trying to convey.

i want to like 'cunt' for all reasons above - reclaiming, alternative to the squishy sounding 'pussy', edgy, cool ......but I just don't really like it unless I'm being very intentionally extremely e.x.p.l.i.c.i.t. it feels like wearing boots with heels. it just makes me... I don't know it sounds so sharp and corner-having to me. as far as the aussie slang - it sounds kind of stupid/low brow (LANEY I LOVE YOU im totally not critcising you, this is just from how I've seen it bandied about and I'm not hip and american anyway so maybe I haven't seen the post-ironic/cute/niceness of it) I generally haven't liked that usage. maybe it's just not my scene- ''sick cunt' sounds like it goes with 'brah'. and then maybe it was reclaimed from "brah" people ironically? but I'm not very ironic.

overall I'm kind of sensitive now more than ever. lately I don't even like to use the word 'fuck' too lightly and I wince a little bit when I'm around people who say it a lot! I have no idea when I became this person but I even say gosh instead of god -_-

I'm just so freakin' sensitive to word sounds. I know when I was younger I loved to say cunt because I loved the sharpness and hotness and shocking feeling of saying it. i remember having a lot of phone sex and using the word very intentionally and to great effect. But now I want things to be more loving and soft and gentle and cunt doesn't feel that way to me. I have been trying a bit to reclaim pussy - just for myself, by myself - but it's not really good either. feels juvenile and like plump and weird like a teddy bear or something.

my last lover said vagina and SOMEHOW managed to make that sexy, I have no idea how.i was probably just really in love. he could have called it an acorn and I would have been over the moon. otherwise I just feel constantly trapped in a world that didn't even make a decent literary slang term for my beautiful awesome powerful (.......), the main two words that exist make me feel like a tough domme bitch or an adorable little baby girl which I know are basically my choices in life. both of those things are fine to be but I tend to resent false dichotomies.

see also for options: bloodless technical term OR crystal wrapped eastern cultural appropriation.

for the record I love saying and writing and using both man-part words - 'cock' and 'dick', but especially cock.

what do you guys think about peach? fruit symbolism works really well in poetry. also it's really hot in azalea banks' '212' when she's all, "now she wanna lick my plum in the evening....' (although she does go on to state that she guesses 'that cunt gettin eaten'.... I do love that usage) the fruit thing, is that gross though? could that be a thing? Sometimes I go french, too. Minou, when I want that 'pussy' feeling without the pedo vibe. Bijou - it means jewel! Chatte - I was never really into it but it can be hot when someone says it to you other languages are good, actually.....

hehe naturally I have a lot of opinions about word stuff <3 <3

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viva · 16-07-16 10:40:16

I will also say on the topic of foreign languages that one of the ways I was/am taking 'pussy' back is imagining it's not english, so spelling it in my head, "poussie", and then I think of this sexy turkish girl I knew who had the hottest way of saying it and it made like a pouty sound feeling - so when I think of it like that, it sounds less 'moist'/whiny and more 'lush'/sensuous and I like it a LOT better.

Sparks79 · 06-10-16 11:03:25

I don't think any word should be owned by anyone. It only will make for inequality and exaggerates differences between sexes. But actually I feel the same about the famous n-word. It will only clearly show differences that actually shouldn't really atter although they are there.

Catch my drift?

btw. I am not a native ienglish speaker, but to me cunt sounds more like swearing than pussy which sounds more friendly. But that's purely the sound of it.

JDmattyas · 07-10-16 23:41:37

As a Brit I have always found the taboo attached to "cunt" by Americans to be interesting, because it retains a power. Shows like The Sopranos and The Wire both use it to really make a point. McNulty calls his ex-wife a cunt and Greggs is genuinely shocked to hear the word.

The flip-side to that is the danger of allowing any word, a collection of sounds made with your mouth, the power to shock and offend. This is true of racial slurs, homophobic insults and any other word deemed "hurtful". Treat it as a weapon and it will be used as a weapon.

But then, does this make it sexy as a form of verbal bondage? Using it in a sensual way with someone you love and trust, does the word's power become a turn on? And might this explain why those who use it casually might not be able to channel its power in a romantic setting? If the word is only ever thrown at someone at the extreme reaches of your emotion, love or hate (or both), then its use becomes an expression of that feeling. Throwing it around at everyone in the periphery ("Is that cunt still on the phone?" "That [generic sports-person] is such a cunt" etc) dilutes it.

Now "cunny", there's a word of beauty

viva · 08-10-16 00:44:01

"the danger of allowing any word... to offend"

This way of thinking is always so interesting to me. I mean, words are everything, they're what take our totally incomprehensible mashup of experience and training and assumptions and feelings and ideas and desires and impulses and thoughts- and allow them to be packaged for comprehension and distinction. Aside from being the way we conceive of the world mentally, words (sometimes in conjunction with actions) are the clearest form of communication we have, literally, as a species.

And we are constantly refining our codes and languages, as pairs, as small groups, as larger communities, and a good thing that is, too, cause it was really confusing when one guy said "god" and the other guy heard "sun" and pointed up at the sky, and the first guy was like, no, you know, "god", and indicating all around us, and then the other guy was like, oh you mean "sunlight".

The experience of meaning is defined by words. The most touching and heart-wrenching human dramas are stories of loss precipitated by miscommunication. Studies show that even children raised in verbal silence eventually begin to develop language - though take this with a grain of salt, because studies on feral children are kind of sketchy. Philosophy - ultimately, a semantic practice - is at the roots of science, government, and religion.

My point is that words are everything, they are done by us, to us, they have immeasurable power, they literally are power. So to say we could, as individuals, have the ability to allow or disallow words the power to shock and offend - seems mind-bogglingly simplistic to me! That's why "taking ownership" of words and word-systems which are inextricably linked with oppression is such a big and exciting thing to do

I think your second point is really interesting - about the ways we subvert pain in the bedroom, like... sexuality is such a battleground, where we see the things that hurt us most morphed into what we crave the most, and it's such an incredible process. I really want to understand more about this but I'm scared!

aven frey · 10-10-16 00:37:09

viva wrote:

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My point is that words are everything, they are done by us, to us, they have immeasurable power, they literally are power. So to say we could, as individuals, have the ability to allow or disallow words the power to shock and offend - seems mind-bogglingly simplistic to me!

Yes!

This is an oldy but still so on point!

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/f/9/6/f964a3a … 16e8dc459a

Sparks79 · 30-10-16 23:50:33

viva wrote:

"the danger of allowing any word... to offend"
This way of thinking is always so interesting to me. I mean, words are everything, they're what take our totally incomprehensible mashup of experience and training and assumptions and feelings and ideas and desires and impulses and thoughts- and allow them to be packaged for comprehension and distinction. Aside from being the way we conceive of the world mentally, words (sometimes in conjunction with actions) are the clearest form of communication we have, literally, as a species.
And we are constantly refining our codes and languages, as pairs, as small groups, as larger communities, and a good thing that is, too, cause it was really confusing when one guy said "god" and the other guy heard "sun" and pointed up at the sky, and the first guy was like, no, you know, "god", and indicating all around us, and then the other guy was like, oh you mean "sunlight".
The experience of meaning is defined by words. The most touching and heart-wrenching human dramas are stories of loss precipitated by miscommunication. Studies show that even children raised in verbal silence eventually begin to develop language - though take this with a grain of salt, because studies on feral children are kind of sketchy. Philosophy - ultimately, a semantic practice - is at the roots of science, government, and religion.
My point is that words are everything, they are done by us, to us, they have immeasurable power, they literally are power. So to say we could, as individuals, have the ability to allow or disallow words the power to shock and offend - seems mind-bogglingly simplistic to me! That's why "taking ownership" of words and word-systems which are inextricably linked with oppression is such a big and exciting thing to do
I think your second point is really interesting - about the ways we subvert pain in the bedroom, like... sexuality is such a battleground, where we see the things that hurt us most morphed into what we crave the most, and it's such an incredible process. I really want to understand more about this but I'm scared!

Actually I believe that offending and shocking is not really what the one that uses the words does, although he or she might have the intention.

It is the receiver that will allow him or herself to be shocked. I might already be shocked by you speaking in public, while others aren't even moved by things that might totally shock others.

It is as with art. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And so it is with language, as far as I am concerned that is. For me this is also the reason freedom of speech is so important. If a small group of easily offended people can forbid the use of words, where does it end?

I Do agree with you that words can be very powerful, but I do not believe it when you say you have the power to shock people. That is really up to the receiving party.

viva · 31-10-16 20:30:26

You're probably right, Sparks. Fortunately, when words fail to adequetly express our pain and outrage, we have gifs. Sweet, sweet gifs.

rotebarone3 · 12-11-16 08:42:28

Simply stated, I was brought up not to use that word, particularly in the presence of a lady, as it is an offensive term.

Interestingly, as a term of derision, the British seem to find it less of an insult than in the US. Apparently classic Cockney rhyming slang is such that when you call someone a "Berk" - you are calling that person a "Berkshire Hunt" - ('cause it rhymes with: "Cunt"). Equally interesting, speaking the word "Berkshire" - the first syllable rhymes with "ark" - as in Noah. But "Berk" by itself rhymes with "work" - go figure.

Now as an anatomical term, "cunt" seems to my ears to be harsher than "pussy" - even Mrs Slocum (Are You Being Served?) often referred to her pussy - meaning her pussycat - but it sufficed as a double entendre of the first order.

Certainly there are dozens of synonyms - some better - some worse. But exactly how often is this word needed in normal conversation?

"Good morning, how's your cunt, Berk?"
"Fine. How's your dick, Dick?"

Who are these people? :-)

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KilgoreT13 · 11-01-17 15:04:07

So many interesting topics. (I think I've read most of the previous posts, but not the linked articles, so forgive me if I tread the same ground.)

My general theory on this "cunt" business has to do with how it's pronounced in Australian vs American accents. In Australia I think I'm not too far off the mark by observing that the "t" in "cunt" tends to be far less plosive. That is to say, there's less "punch" to it. If you had a speaker with an Australian accent and a speaker with an American accent say "cunt" you'd find that much more air is displaced by the American speaker (they're really gonna punch that "t".) So in conversation it lends itself to far more derogatory emphasis because you can really punch the "t" at the end. So, in a way "cunt" in American sounds a bit more 'vicious' and far less flippant than it might with an Australian accent.

As for "moist" my general theory is that the vowel sound there is a lesser-used vowel sound (to be precise, a diphthong) that doesn't pop up many other places in regular speech. (It's hanging around in some regular contexts with "boy" and "toy" but if you say those words enough you can make them 'weird' for you too.) And, I think the relative rarity of "moist" along with the relative rarity of the vowel sound preserves its weirdness for American English speakers.

LeoBloom · 12-05-20 08:40:04

I'm sorry the word "quim" seems to have fallen out of usage. It was inoffensive and affectionate.

In a way, I'd be sorry to see "cunt" becoming mainstream (as it is), and that's partly that I lament the loss (in Britain anyway) of any distinction between public and private language. This seems to be so for everyone - politicians, actors, sportsmen and women...At the last Olympics I don't think a single British athlete was able to express their pleasure at winning without using the word "fuck".
But also we need to preserve a kind of lovers' lexicon - and not for the moment of expressing affection, but for the moment when dicks are throbbing, pussies are dripping, hands are groping and tongues are sinking deep down and into crevices. We need a language of fierce erotic desire, and if "cunt" could be preserved for those moments, it would add enormously to its power then.

viva · 13-05-20 01:45:16

mm thats hot and I think you're right. I have really relished the delight in several of my lovers when I've used the word 'cunt'... but maybe that's going to be less and less interesting as erotic, dirty, and obscene words go more and more mainstream.

_hyperballad_ · 13-05-20 05:16:43

I love the word cunt. Both colloquially, as in 'mad cunt' & referencing my own cunt, usually in a sexual context. That said I know the word cunt can be triggering for a lot of women so I'd never reference another womans' pussy as a cunt, unless I know she felt comfy with that language.

I enjoy pushing back against the notion of ladylikeness. It is thoroughly unladylike to use the word cunt & that just makes it all the more fun to say!

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LeoBloom · 29-03-21 18:07:00

For an example of how to use it properly, see the description of Temptation's first up-close video.
Who wrote that? "beautifully flushed cunt" - perfect.

viva · 30-03-21 00:09:36

ahhh that was me

LeoBloom · 30-03-21 07:35:06

You were inspired.

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