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_redbird_ · 21-08-19 05:17:41

I'm still making my way through classic Doctor Who and I'm currently about halfway through Jon Pertwee's run as the Doctor. I thought having him (mostly) stranded on Earth and UNIT's involvement would bore me somewhat but I actually really love it. Liz Shaw is one of my favourite companions in the whole series and The Brigadier is really excellent, and his (I like to imagine sexual) chemistry with the third Doctor is absolute perfection. They do a really wonderful job of depicting the opposing opinions of him and the Doctor, despite both of them aiming for more or less the same goal. This is best depicted with the climax of The Silurians. I also have a really intense crush on Nicholas Courtney and Jon Pertwee, which is probably at least a small part of why I'm so into the third Doctor's run thus far.

Molly_f · 21-08-19 08:51:11

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I also recently watched Piercing, a horror film on Netflix. The premise is pretty interesting, a wannabe serial killer hires a call girl with the intention of killing her but gets more than he bargained for when she ends up being a tad bonkers herself. It is shot wonderfully and is somewhat art-housey without being just an abstract mess (I'm not a huge fan of art-house films as a rule) but I'm also not entirely sure I liked the film? I think I did though. It definitely stayed with me. I also really enjoyed The Perfection (also on Netflix). At first glance it seems like a Black Swan rip off but I was pleasantly surprised by it. Funnily enough, both of those films star someone from Girls (Charlie and Marnie respectively). Lately I've been finding myself intrigued by horror movies that are unsettling but make you think over the themes contained within long after you've seen it.

Love a good horror movie where the victim turns the tables on the killer... I remember when I saw Hard Candy when I was like 15 and feeling pretty gay, so baby Ellen Page destroying that man's life was a real thrill. Oh hey, Hard Candy also starred Patrick Wilson. What else is Patrick Wilson in for one episode???? GIRLS! Have been re-watching it lately and I don't care what anyone says about Lena Dunham... she's smart, hilarious and Girls was a fantastic show. Will go home tonight and watch Piercing AND The Perfection.

_redbird_ · 21-08-19 09:01:39

Molly_f wrote:

_redbird_ wrote:
I also recently watched Piercing, a horror film on Netflix. The premise is pretty interesting, a wannabe serial killer hires a call girl with the intention of killing her but gets more than he bargained for when she ends up being a tad bonkers herself. It is shot wonderfully and is somewhat art-housey without being just an abstract mess (I'm not a huge fan of art-house films as a rule) but I'm also not entirely sure I liked the film? I think I did though. It definitely stayed with me. I also really enjoyed The Perfection (also on Netflix). At first glance it seems like a Black Swan rip off but I was pleasantly surprised by it. Funnily enough, both of those films star someone from Girls (Charlie and Marnie respectively). Lately I've been finding myself intrigued by horror movies that are unsettling but make you think over the themes contained within long after you've seen it.
Love a good horror movie where the victim turns the tables on the killer... I remember when I saw Hard Candy when I was like 15 and feeling pretty gay, so baby Ellen Page destroying that man's life was a real thrill. Oh hey, Hard Candy also starred Patrick Wilson. What else is Patrick Wilson in for one episode???? GIRLS! Have been re-watching it lately and I don't care what anyone says about Lena Dunham... she's smart, hilarious and Girls was a fantastic show. Will go home tonight and watch Piercing AND The Perfection.

Oh yay! Please let me know what you think of them (because in the case of Piercing) I'm still not fully sure how I feel about it, other than knowing it looks and sounds incredible. And I fully agree with your stance on Girls. While the main characters are somewhat deplorable people at times (or more insufferable I guess?), I feel that the show always stayed rather true to life and while it had a slight dip during the middle of its run (honestly I couldn't have cared LESS about Marnie and her musician guy) the show really picked up in its last two seasons.

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viva · 22-08-19 00:43:08

Yuck Marnie in general but yeah especially that muscian storyline.

Girls is a strange show because none of the characters are particularly interesting, deep, likeable or have a redeeming character arc but we still want to watch it. Its a bit of a train wreck. I loved the sex between Hannah and Adam. I love that dirty stuff and Girls did it better than most. I kind of like Adam the whole time actually, he's really ridiculous but so appealing to me. I think Jessa and Caroline are super hot - Gabby Hoffman, who plays Caroline, is one of my favourite actresses ever.

viva · 22-08-19 00:44:29

Oh wait, I really liked Ray as well. Very Woody Allen-esque character.

cyclonus · 25-08-19 23:19:46

More dispatches from BreadTube.

I have been enjoying Lindsay Ellis's pop culture/philosophy/film theory video essays. She just wrapped a 2 hour "hot take" on Game of Thrones that was very insightful (Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hys_m3BPTS8). Her use of ritornello always make me laugh!

For the Star Wars enthusiast, her video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAVeyXwy3BE) on the ideology (if they have one) of the First Order really demonstrated the lack of depth of these evil empires--evil empires which don't really get around to anything other than oppression. Also, Dark Side Rey ftw.

Orgasm86 · 25-08-19 23:52:09

Lindsay Ellis is awesome! If I might offer my own personal favorites:

How Aladdin Changed Animation (by Screwing Over Robin Williams) - https://youtu.be/nyiBdccfNkg
(Whoa! This is her most popular video now!)

Product Placement and Fair Use - https://youtu.be/NNuGdv536mM

That Time Disney Remade Beauty and the Beast - https://youtu.be/vpUx9DnQUkA

My Monster Boyfriend - https://youtu.be/YesMWAxqJ60

Stranger Things, IT and the Upside Down of Nostalgia - https://youtu.be/Radg-Kn0jLs

And that's just scratching the surface really. I've enjoyed practically every video she's uploaded (though I connect less with the ones about films/tv shows/books I've yet to see/read, but they are nevertheless still good).

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_redbird_ · 27-08-19 03:17:59

Ooooh!! Yes I love Lindsay Ellis!! I've been following her for a while now. I think my favourite video of hers is her take on Joel Schumacher's Phantom of the Opera. She loves musicals so much and that film makes her so angry, it's excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5I_5Vnh6A

ThatIndividual · 29-08-19 02:51:10

I’ve progressed from GoT since it ended through American Gods (Emily Browning!), Another Life, The Originals, and now I’m freebasing The Vampire Diaries and Legacies. It’s bad, awful, and is surely taking years off my life and killing more brain cells than meth cut with coke cut with bleach (not the anime). But I just finished the audiobook of “The Secret Lives of Trees”; so I’ve got that going for me, which is nice. It really does reveal that even trees are pretty astonishing examples of life’s complexity. I love trees!

viva · 29-08-19 02:57:38

oooh I've been wanting to read that Secret Life of Trees for years, ever since I worked at powells. I don't know about your vamp. diaries habits. are you okay? is it just wank material? my boyfriend doesn't watch much porn but instead wanks to trashy sexy hot kid dramas which I find insanely endearing.

american gods was awesome though. I've watched handmaid's tale, sweetbitter, workin' moms (whatever shut up yes I did find the secret 3rd season and binge it while pretending I was in canada via VPN) and otherwise just ungodly amounts (read: ALL) of The Good Wife and then The Good Fight because I'm OCD and can't stop something once I've started until it's fully over.

I also watched Another Life because it has Katie Sackoff (who was Starbuck in Battlestar Gallactica) I loved hating it, I would watch another horrible plot-hole ridden pointlessly sexy young actor-having season of it, and love hating that too, but sigh. I miss actually good scifi.

ThatIndividual · 29-08-19 03:26:29

But they totally had a non-binary character (I think?) so it’s automatically fresh and good, right?! I wasn’t really looking for plot holes in Another Life, though yes some of rhe devices were just so forced. Like they totally melted down like she murdered a guy for coming at her with a weapon immediately after he mutinied. Just totally side stepped that explanation to over react enough to force some drama. But it really is a breath of scifi just good enough to shine in a sea of not-scofi.

American Gods with Emily Browning was total wank material for me. I’m actually kind of uncomfortable with how those vampire show actresses turn me on as they're supposed to be in HS. But its ok, you figure? I got hooked on the Originals as like something to watch on Sunday after all the chores are done and my brain is mush. Now, like you said, I just got to see the rest of it out of a desire to see it all.

I suggest getting the audiobook for the secret lives of trees. I had the book on my bookshelf for at least a year and didn’t pick it up. The narrators voice is perfect for a book on trees and forests - deep and calming. I used it to help me drift off to sleep at least once. I feel like I could identify that a tree needs help to stop being strangled by a nuisance vine, for instance. Or that the trees standing next to one another are relatives, are the kids being parented well by their parent(s), and so on.

viva · 29-08-19 03:50:39

I'm never looking for plot holes but come on, all the brilliant experts sent by earth to connect with the very first alien lifeform are like... super duper emotional CHILDREN? why? what? some off-hand comments about not wanting to send grownups cause high chance they will die. Okay... and another off-comment about how we dont have uniforms anymore stupid. Okay so everyone's dressed all cute for absolutely no reason because that's so impractical on a spaceship. and the sweet virgin computer man seemed so freakin easy to turn off and completely disrupt all systems and kill everyone on board plus a million other things but whatever that threesome was so hot.

If you're worried about being turned on my fictional teen characters, you're asking the wrong girl to provide a moral yardstick. I fucking love wanking to fake teens, ageplay is definitely part of my erotic landscape, and my conscious has absolutely no problems with it.

I feel sad for men who experience fear about delving into their dark erotic worlds. I know people who worry that they are genuine monsters because their erotic minds go to dangerous places. But sex is monstrous, it is shadow, it is fascination and dread and it is deep deep deep and it wants to go deeper. That's what our erotic minds are for, we need to feel safe for us to exploring there. I guess ... is it scary that if you persue a certain line of thought in your mind, you might feel urges toward like young girls or whatever in real life? is it just an internalised hall monitor/"OH MY GOD HE'S A CREEP" voice?

sometimes I think no matter how much I can feel sexy and love sex and be aroused pretty often, I can't really know what the experience of testosterone is like. In my studies I have enjoyed talking to men about this, and hope to have the opportunity to do more interviews, because I think the hormonal reality of testosterone impacting mens' lived experiences is a big part of the puzzle when it comes to understanding masculinity, as individuals and in society, that we don't really talk about.

viva · 02-09-19 07:18:01

Thatindiv, I found some good scifi!! It's a russian show called "Better Than Us" on netflix, and it is so good! All family and AI and robots and robots feeling love and drama and crime and intrigue and good, deep vibes.

mori910y · 02-09-19 19:54:11

viva wrote:

I'm never looking for plot holes but come on, all the brilliant experts sent by earth to connect with the very first alien lifeform are like... super duper emotional CHILDREN? why? what?

Did you see Arrival? That had a far more convincing team for meeting the first aliens to arrive on Earth, who tried to understand what the aliens were doing / wanted / intended to do. The main character was Amy Adams, who I think is one of those women you can admire from a distance as a person, not just get the hots over.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543164/vi … =vi_nxt_ap (The trailer, of course, picks the most dramatic titbits).

If you haven't ever watched it, you really need to see it at least three times, because the first time you won't understand what just happened, probably, and the second you'll think you do, and the third you'll know that you're back at the beginning. And that's one reason why it's not your usual earthpeople meet aliens movie.

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mori910y · 02-09-19 20:17:03

viva wrote:

sometimes I think no matter how much I can feel sexy and love sex and be aroused pretty often, I can't really know what the experience of testosterone is like. In my studies I have enjoyed talking to men about this, and hope to have the opportunity to do more interviews, because I think the hormonal reality of testosterone impacting mens' lived experiences is a big part of the puzzle when it comes to understanding masculinity, as individuals and in society, that we don't really talk about.

Just think psychedelic drug that takes over your whole thinking process and makes sex the prime directive for a time. If you know how to control it then it's not a problem, just something pleasurable, but I feel sorry for a lot of today's young men who have very little showing them what to do, and an overwhelming load of misogynistic Internet and music (so-called) that teaches them that women are there to be abused and used. And the most important thing they never seems to be told or shown is - if you get horny and don't want to be, have a wank. The effects of that are almost instantaneous, going from for example horny and watching IFM and wanking along with the person on the video to having an orgasm and almost instantly falling into almost complete indifference as far as sexual responses are concerned. At least that's how I find it. There are lot's of men around who can probably describe their experience.

Personally I think that sex education at school should actually teach boys about what women like and how to give it to them, and about what to do if they feel horny over some girl or woman and don't want to be. Instead they get a diet of rap and internet junk telling them to slap up their bitch and giving them the idea that women are there just for them to relieve themselves with as I mentioned above.

So, testosterone, where would we be without it? What do you think launched those thousand ships that everyone blames on Helen?

privignus · 02-09-19 21:19:43

viva wrote:

I feel sad for men who experience fear about delving into their dark erotic worlds. I know people who worry that they are genuine monsters because their erotic minds go to dangerous places. But sex is monstrous, it is shadow, it is fascination and dread and it is deep deep deep and it wants to go deeper. That's what our erotic minds are for, we need to feel safe for us to exploring there. I guess ... is it scary that if you persue a certain line of thought in your mind, you might feel urges toward like young girls or whatever in real life? is it just an internalised hall monitor/"OH MY GOD HE'S A CREEP" voice?
sometimes I think no matter how much I can feel sexy and love sex and be aroused pretty often, I can't really know what the experience of testosterone is like. In my studies I have enjoyed talking to men about this, and hope to have the opportunity to do more interviews, because I think the hormonal reality of testosterone impacting mens' lived experiences is a big part of the puzzle when it comes to understanding masculinity, as individuals and in society, that we don't really talk about.

Yeah, it is a bit of a taboo right now to talk about differences between men and women other than what is between their legs, even though we know that hormones affect brain chemistry and brain chemistry affects everything. Stupid evolutionary biology types ruining it for the rest of us

Its hard because anything you do can hurt someone. So there are people who really don't want to be flirted with at hobby events, and people who are desperate for someone (or the right someone) to make a pass, and the rules of social behaviour which the first wants are not the same as the second wants. Sometimes people don't want to be ogled, and sometimes they carefully chose the tightest, tallest leggings they can find. I am not very smart at this, I want to become braver at trying different things and not just thinking about them.

mori910y wrote:

Personally I think that sex education at school should actually teach boys about what women like and how to give it to them, and about what to do if they feel horny over some girl or woman and don't want to be. Instead they get a diet of rap and internet junk telling them to slap up their bitch and giving them the idea that women are there just for them to relieve themselves with as I mentioned above.

Elf 'Kelly Fucking Green' Sternberg once thought about it and decided that he couldn't imagine an American school board or parent-teacher association accepting sex ed which talked about how to give people orgasms so they cling to you like rabid weasels or presented sex as a skill you can practice. That would be even more dangerous to the powers that be than teaching people to live without a credit card. (On the other hand, I know some American sex workers who have been hired as 18th birthday presents or going-away-to-college presents by the guy's parents).

He thought of it like home economics: how many people go and become cooks and bakers, rather than popping something out of the carton and in to the microwave? (Although he is American, and in most countries most people do cook, and often pretty well, just like most people sing and dance).

I wonder if there are networks passing around links to Scarleteen and the Sex Ed section of Tiny Nibbles like old Playboy magazines?

viva · 03-09-19 01:00:47

It's my impression that nerds and readers sex-ed the hell out of themselves, and everyone else just gets porn and sex ed.

mori, I want to be clear - I love testosterone. I can feel it and its scary and sexy and hot and it just makes me want to.... yield. and when my partner's testosterone is low because of lack of exercise and drive, we both feel it and it creates vibes that interfere with the normal flow of our relationship. but I have a really good relationship with my hormones too, the girly ones and the hungry ones and the stressy ones and ... I just like understanding what's happening in the interplay between my body and my feelings. and I think a lot of the subtle, energetic interplay between people is just us sensing each others hormones. So yeah. I love the thousand ships, and anything that can launch them for desire.

Priv, it is really odd to live in a world where we discuss gender so much but can't educate clearly about the hormonal differences between penis-bodies and vagina-bodies - including, as you say, how to navigate your world when you're feeling too much of a hormone you don't want to feel. For testosterone maybe you can wank or go to the gym. For cortisol you can breathe deeply and count objects. for PMS hormones you can take some time alone to get away from the people who used to be your beloved family and friends but somehow devolved into infurating walking cacti.

I watched a recent John Oliver on bias in medicine where they were saying that female bodies were basically male bodies with "extra hormones". which precluded them from being involved in medical trials, for fear all that extra weird stuff would compromise the data.

"To illustrate the absurdity of this approach, Oliver cited a 1990 study published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute that attempted to determine the effect diet had on estrogen metabolism and whether that influenced the incidence of breast and uterine cancer.

Just one problem with that study: All the subjects were men."

viva · 03-09-19 01:02:12

ps. I loved Arrival. Watched it in a hotel room in south dakota. another life definitely was playing off it. I'll watch it again, didn't realise there were so many layers.

viva · 03-09-19 01:07:41

Hey question, doesn't testosterone also make you like rage out, in the sense that the urge could be so strong you don't care about other people's feelings or doing the right thing? surge of desire + rage = rape feelings. I think that's what people I know are afraid of - that if they don't control it completely they will have a desire to rape.

but I have rape fantasies and I don't feel too complicated about that. I think it's because I can feel pretty certain that my fantasies won't be any kind of slippery slope to hurting someone else, where as, if you give into a "desire to rape" feeling/fantasy, maybe there's guilt and fear of doing something wrong attached to that?

mori910y · 03-09-19 11:08:09

viva wrote:

Hey question, doesn't testosterone also make you like rage out, in the sense that the urge could be so strong you don't care about other people's feelings or doing the right thing? surge of desire + rage = rape feelings. I think that's what people I know are afraid of - that if they don't control it completely they will have a desire to rape.

That's why young men should be taught more about their bodies and needs, and also women's bodies and needs, in my opinion. I think the danger of rage is when the man has just got to the point of climax and the woman then says no - which she is perfectly entitled to do of course. I suppose it's an evolutionary imperative that doesn't like to be thwarted, but there are ways to deal with it, none of which need to involve mistreating the woman. Usually, a lot of huffing and puffing and banging doors for a couple of minutes should do it. Followed by the apologising.

mori910y · 03-09-19 11:17:08

viva wrote:

ps. I loved Arrival. Watched it in a hotel room in south dakota. another life definitely was playing off it. I'll watch it again, didn't realise there were so many layers.

It took me a second playthrough to get the idea that she was having memories of the future that hadn't happened yet. The aliens seemed to be able to remember things that happened in 3000 years time. I liked the clue in her daughter's name - Hannah - which you could spell out going into the future, and then spell out backwards back into the present.

privignus · 03-09-19 20:49:38

I heard that for a long time the three models of crash-text dummies were men, slightly smaller men, and very much smaller men. And it turns out that say women having wider hips and more slender necks on average affects what happens in a car crash

Viva, I am kind of confused because men can be sexually selfish and women can be sexually selfish, men can exploit partners for sex and women can exploit partners for sex ... if men were 70% the size of women and more vulnerable to STIs I think we would see a lot of stereotypes flip gender. I don't think there is some special guy hormone which creates assholes. But I think there is probably another 10-20% of the differences which is biological not situational.

privignus · 03-09-19 21:10:21

I see a lot of male people on the Internet talk about "what if a couple are fucking and the woman declares she does not want to do it any more just before the guy comes?" I have seen female people on the Internet get very demonstrative when a partner brings them to the brink of orgasm then removes the stimulation, and if their partner hadn't had the foresight to restrain them, and were smaller and weaker, I think they might be in danger of being raped *just saying*

_redbird_ · 04-09-19 06:26:25

viva wrote:

Thatindiv, I found some good scifi!! It's a russian show called "Better Than Us" on netflix, and it is so good! All family and AI and robots and robots feeling love and drama and crime and intrigue and good, deep vibes.

Ooh Viva is this on Australian Netflix!? I need a new show to binge now that I've seen basically every British crime drama available to me. As you well know, AI learning and experiencing the meaning of love and/or mortality is my absolute favourite genre! Have you seen Ex Machina? I wish they'd do a series based on that film, I'd be so very much on board with that.

Seeing Sarah_P's ISM shoot today reminded me of another thing I've been getting into lately which is DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS!! I've only got one set/book, and it's a VERY basic one (it's more like Hero Quest really) but I really love it. The set has a board and pieces and characters with their own stats which is more my jam, rather than just using your grey head meat to play and create. I have plans to get the three sets that can be used together - Castle Ravenloft, Wrath of Ashardalon, and Legend of Drizzt. My housemate's Dad has a 3D printer so pretty soon we'll have our very own personalised pieces which is extremely exciting.

viva · 04-09-19 06:58:56

YES it is on aussie netflix, you have to watch its SO good. ex machina is hot. I love the hot scientist getting drunk and then working out so hard through his hangover every day. that was my takeaway from that movie.

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