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#1 29-08-14 03:03:43

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naked therapy

Alright, this article is interesting.

http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/i-went-t … =vicefbanz

So this woman, alias Sarah White, conducts skype therapy sessions for men, wherein she slowly and seductively strips and encourages them to do the same, while expressing their feelings, thoughts, and observations about themselves and their experiences.

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She claims that "therapy doesn't get men", which is interesting to me in so many ways. Sarah White seems to "get men" though. She proposes that that  (straight) men can best open up to a woman, a woman who is intentionally seductive, and stays present, and who allows a man's sexuality to manifest naturally in facilitation with and as a result of his emotional vulnerability.

Part of me really loves this.. I am not a man either and maybe I can't understand, but I have seen that for the men I know, their sexuality seems intricately linked to their experience of emotion and comprehending and working with their own emotion. Men are generally socialized to believe that both their sexuality and their emotionality are detestable - since one seems to be integral to the other, this makes a very confusing world for men to grow up in, both as sexual and emotionally present beings.

So it seems cool! At the same time I personally couldn't relate, maybe because I'm a girl, maybe because I am just me. When I am aroused I am in a state of uselessness emotionally and intellectually, I just want to open open open open and I don't want to take my time or explore or be nurtured or be gentle with myself. So this wouldn't work for me, unless she could work with me in that state of insanity... probably I would just masturbate to the therapist after trying to get her to do dirtier and dirtier things and then switch her off after I have a tearful orgasm.

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#2 29-08-14 03:04:07

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#3 29-08-14 03:19:46

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Oh wow this girl might be so much more interesting than just her Sarah White alias. Check out her website, what a trip!!

http://onaartist.com/

She's amazing at selling herself... kind of? Is she amazing or lame? Am I seduced or contemptuous? I don't know! Kind of both? She's so weird! I almost want to pay 1400 plus airfare (she only flies first class) to hire her as an "EscART" (no touching) so we can walk around and then she can send me a piece of art inspired by her time alone with me! Or maybe I should make 10 monetary devotions to "THE IMAGE" so I could get into the Inner Circle and desire in a bigger way... or maybe just join Blush-the-art-student's sexy solo porn website as a Curator (paid).... or buy those $100 photo sets of before/after sexing up photographers... become an adoring fan of her experimental music projects...

oh my god. now I really do need naked therapy.

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#4 29-08-14 04:28:18

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viva wrote:

So this wouldn't work for me, unless she could work with me in that state of insanity... probably I would just masturbate to the therapist after trying to get her to do dirtier and dirtier things and then switch her off after I have a tearful orgasm.

:<

If you cry it's totes still therapy.

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#5 29-08-14 05:30:32

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I just watched her music video clips and I reckon she's doing that irony thing the kids these days love to do. I mean she's got a song called 'Tone def'!

This!

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and this

"Solfie. This creates a new kind of photo – the model actually owns this photo (perhaps) even though it was taken by someone else! Exciting!"

I'm thinking the combination of naivety and sexual openness is way too cynical to be anything besides subversive. Especially when there are dashes of totally unfiltered cynicism all around the place. 

My most favourite seductive taker of the piss (as in, these are the women you asked me to be and they're all sad, lol. I'm going to make a whole album about them that gets progressively darker until you are uncomfortable) is Lana Del Rey. I love, love Lana, all the Lana's!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJABBmAMXnY

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#6 29-08-14 05:38:47

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I love her and hate her and desperately want to know for sure if she's taking the piss or what.

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#7 29-08-14 06:40:30

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Super interesting article. I'm imagining myself in his position, and I kind of feel like it would be harder for me to open up to a woman like Sarah White than it would be for me to open up to a man doing the same thing. Even though I really like watching women undress and be naked, I think my first reaction to her would be like - hey I can undress and be sexy too look at me!

I kind of had to fight the same urge the one time I went to a strip club - I was really turned on by watching them but it was just so hard not to join in. Eventually a security guard told me to stop dancing. I just imagine with a man I wouldn't feel like I would need to do that, and to me men make themselves more vulnerable by undressing than super beautiful women do. Also I assume that White probably wouldn't be as attracted to me as a straight guy would be... being watched by someone who is attracted to me would make me feel more important and so make it easier to talk.

But I don't know, maybe it would be easier to open up to her than I expect. Maybe I would just talk to her about all of this stuff and then, you know, my life would be perfect.

Her stuff is really weird, it seems like a good way for her to make a lot of money.

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#8 29-08-14 07:06:01

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Speaking of Lana Del Rey here are some girls dancing to Young and Beautiful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJaPeh9y4T4

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#9 29-08-14 08:02:35

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Oh gosh I don't think I could open up to a male stranger trying to be seductive on cam and asking me to talk about my feelings. I'd be lost somewhere between giggles of absurdity and a skewed desire to please. Not a potent combination for emotional progress.

I don't think Sarah White makes herself vulnerable by undressing, or depends on her own openness to get men to open up. I think it's more of an unlocking process - a permissiveness which maybe men rarely experience on a day to day basis except with their lovers. If (and this is a big if) male emotionality is inextricably linked with his sexuality, the permission and encouragement to arousal would double as an invitation to fully relax, let go, and share.

We need a dude to speak to all that convoluted presumin'.

Also, if more strippers looked more like you, Devochka, I'd frequent strip clubs more often, and, also, I love So You Think You Can Dance, so much, and, also, Aven, Lana Del Ray seems like a reasonably smart, chilled out cookie, but I'm not quite sold on the super-clever-feminist-irony-intentionally-laughing-at-the-world thing...

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#10 29-08-14 08:25:45

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Haha, I have more body hair than all of the strippers in a regular club put together. Like probably 20 times as much!

I think I need to do some more research on webcam shows before I can make any more comments about naked therapy.

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#11 29-08-14 08:43:31

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I respect and admire the therapist's radical approach to things. However, I don't think a woman has to get physically naked for me to open up to her--emotional and spiritual nakedness is enough. I've done that on more than one occasion with at least two different women.  A woman can get a man to bare his heart and soul by baring her heart and soul first, not necessarily her body (though that can come later after the emotional intimacy is established).  That's just me, though.

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#12 01-09-14 08:25:33

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big_smile big_smile Woah yes! I was thinking we could go to the... bath house together... or anywhere you want to... maybe we can be naked together now? Or if not we can take a naked break together tomorrow and lock ourselves in the studio and no one could stop us!

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#13 01-09-14 08:53:36

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Thank you, Ms. Traci and Ms. Devochka for the wonderful idea I can pitch to a certain woman in my life...

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#14 02-09-14 05:04:09

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Yay! I'll come talk to you about the bath house on your break. I also have a small brownie for you. Then I guess we can see what happens... I wish we could disappear together for the rest of the day but I'm afraid the company would descend into chaos without us.

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#15 02-09-14 08:47:22

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viva wrote:

also, Aven, Lana Del Ray seems like a reasonably smart, chilled out cookie, but I'm not quite sold on the super-clever-feminist-irony-intentionally-laughing-at-the-world thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFWC4SiZBao

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#16 03-09-14 01:17:03

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I feel dumb cause I still don't get it. It's a beautiful song about abuse. She's in a wedding dress cause like... it's a song about a relationship. Seems pretty straightforward. It's an interesting song and I like it and I like the video, but I don't see what's ironic or even really super clever about it?

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#17 03-09-14 01:23:11

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctFNlAn3z3k

I will make you listen to the whole album Viva!

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#18 27-09-14 03:30:52

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I'm not sure how to express this, but will give it my best shot - just thinking about the relationship between sexuality, emotion, attraction, friendship, etc.  In the throes of sexual abandon, there is a deep connection between the sexual opening up and the emotional opening up.  Maybe this is because of the connection to being vulnerable and experiencing the vulnerability of the other.  If I were to go through one of the sessions, I believe the effectiveness would depend on how I perceived the authenticity of her connection with me.  If it seemed inauthentic, it probably wouldn't work, but if it did seem so, I probably would be more open to sharing more.

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