#1 26-04-14 23:17:29

morentex

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Blue is the warmest color

I just saw this movie. It's a good movie.

Then i googled the movie and found that there were issues about the sex (of course) and the "fake" lesbian love.
I don´t know bit it seems to me that even if the actresses are hetero the love scenes are realistic enough. I mean, how can anyone be dead sure
that this is not a possible way to love someone ?
Or am i just another guy enjoying fake sex on the screen?

viva

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Re: Blue is the warmest color

Hey morentex! I guess I was one of the folks who felt blah about the film. I mean, I like sexy bums as much as the next person, but this movie to me really shouted "I AM DIRECTED BY A HETEROSEXUAL MALE!" The whole thing really felt like a man's lesbian fantasy, and not at all like a real story about real people. The sex was perfect-looking, many-positioned, many-orgasm'd, and acrobatic without awkwardness, which are some hallmarks of fantasy sex and not typical of real sex, especially real sex being had for the very first time (for Adele) or real sex with someone new (for Emma).

A quote from the author of the original graphic novel: “It appears to me that this was what was missing from the set: lesbians.”

Plus it had a really weird thing in there about infidelity that really pissed me off - ok when we meet her, Blue Hair has a girlfriend. When CutiePie asks, "How long have you been with [girlfriend]." Blue Hair says they live together, they've been together 2 years. No biggie though - that's the last we hear about her. Mrah? Among many other things that annoyed me.. I did not like this movie. But, Blue Hair and Cutie Pie are very pretty girls that's true.

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I haven't seen the film myself and felt a bit uncomfortable about some of the comments one of the actresses made about the shooting process. Apparently the director made the girls shoot one of the sex scenes for TEN DAYS.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 … cenes.html

viva

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I saw that, sheesh! Also they didn't barely know each other before they jumped in! They said they wore "fake pussies that covered their real pussies" but that there was no choreography or direction so that it was quite uncomfortable for them, especially since they didn't know what to do as they are both straight. it makes sense that 10 days of filming would lead to the long, unrealistic sex scene we saw in the movie - he would have had more footage than he knew what to do with, really. So it would have been the session to end all sessions, with a smorgasbord of positions and moments to choose from.

morentex

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Re: Blue is the warmest color

Thanks for the answers. That was what i was wondering about.

A note though: Movies are almost never "realistic". People are too good looking, the weather is too good, the villiain is too bad etc.
So that sex scenes are unrealistic comes with the territory.
But the question is if we still want to believe the story ? which we don't do if feels impossible (given the context)

And as a understand your answer, Viva,  it's too far fetched even for a romantic tradgedy.

viva

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Re: Blue is the warmest color

Movies aren't meant to be realistic, but any other basic love story we wouldn't even bother talking about. There was nothing truly interesting, to me, about the Notebook for example - so I wouldn't bother debating whether it was good or not, really. It did its job - made me look at perfect people experiencing perfect love and perfect tragedy without any real life depth, made me cry, etc - and I feel pretty much the same about Blue is The Warmest Color. Perfect bodies, perfect love, perfect sex, and then the end of the film broke down into some kind of weird emo unrelatable tragi-drama that I seriously didn't get.

Except, with Blue, unlike every other artsy emo love story, we are talking about it. Men are talking about it. In the NYT roundup of the most prominent reviews, only 3 out of 18 articles were written by women. And why are men talking so much about what normally would be, for all intents and purposes, a chick flick? Well... cause... sex?

Movies aren't really meant to be realistic usually - that's right. But the problem here (I think) is not how unrealistic the sex is, but how not gay it is. The director's male gaze runs rampant through the film - I didn't feel like I was watching two people get to know each other and fall in love. I felt like I was watching two lesbian stereotypes with super cute asses meet in order to get down to the lesbian action ASAP, while being really seductive and charged in between sex scenes.

It's good to have more media about same-sex couples, but it should ideally go hand in hand with more gay and lesbian directors, screenwriters, actors etc. The same way it's embarrassing to have a young hot-shot director who's never been in a fist-fight make a high art drama about veterans of war, it's a little embarrassing to feel this clueless director's boner as he makes his straight actresses play out his fantasy of what a lesbian relationship looks like.

A movie about lesbians should at least have a lesbian on set to consult. This one didn't and it showed. But heaps of people loved this movie and I don't think they're wrong for that - it was beautifully shot and emotionally charged.

morentex

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Re: Blue is the warmest color

Thanks for your thoughts on this Viva. I feel a bit embarrased bringing up this discussion that i have not  first hand experience of.
I can only agree that in this movie with all the media focus, the main problem with the sex scenes are not how realistic but how gay they are.
And of course these sex scenes are one big reason the movie is so discussed (by male reviewers). Maybe this is also a good thing, bringing focus to the question of how sex can/should be filmed, but this has been done before many times. So i don't know.

As far as men watching chick flicks i think men (whatever "men" are)  do. I just searched movies with most won Oscars: The winners are
11:  Titanic, Ben Hur, LOTR, Returns of the king
10: West side story
9: The english patient, Gigi, The last emperor.

This is no proof other than that it seems mainstream enough by men to discuss non-action movies.

Lastly, thanks to all of you that have made this website possible. It is such a breath of fresh air!
Thanks to all the artists who are so brave and beautiful, you are almost to good to be true.

And thanks to you Viva !