Ellabella

charlie141r42 · 10-02-14 01:55:39

Were my eyes somehow deceiving me, or was Ellabella while making her very first appearance on IFM on her period!

WLV612 · 10-02-14 02:14:20

IFM has a reputation for producing natural content. The contributors are a part of that natural theme and I prefer to view the whole offering rather than focus a small portion that has nothing to do with the overall content. We're adults here, I assume, and while some things may be deliberately included to enhance the erotic, other things are simply part of the naturalness IFM is known for. I hope that answers your question.

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charlie141r42 · 11-02-14 12:48:52

Thank you for that.
While it may explain the sites position, and with beauty being in the eye of the beholder, it was not a posting that appealed to me.
In fact a lot of the recent postings recently seem to be taking the site in a direction, when compared to older postings, have not appeaedl to me, and have me considering ending my membership.

artist_charlotte_v · 12-02-14 00:06:35

charlie141r42 wrote:

...In fact a lot of the recent postings recently seem to be taking the site in a direction, when compared to older postings, have not appeaedl to me, and have me considering ending my membership.

Can you elaborate on this? I feel the latest content is more beautiful and exciting than ever!

viva · 12-02-14 00:27:56

Hey Charlie, sorry to say, but if you're uncomfortable with a woman masturbating while she's on her period, this may very well not be the site for you! In the past we're had waaaay more boundary-pushing content than Ellabella's little white string, and I hope that we continue to push those arbitrary porno boundaries for a long time to come. Around here, women bleed, or don't, they have body hair, or they don't, they cry, or they don't, they scream out when they come, or they don't, they introduce themselves and smile for the camera - or they don't! They're skinny or they're not, redheaded or not, stretchmarks or not, tummy rumbles, bum scratches, big yawns, etc etc. In fact, they are surprisingly, just like... actual women. because they are. Actual women.

Thanks for enjoying what you've enjoyed, and it's our hope that you like what we produce in the future - if not all of it, I'm sure there are many videos which would and do suit your taste. However, please don't try to throw your consumer privilege around and assume it'll have clout here. We are about doing what we do as honestly as possible, and part of that means not bending to the whims of our paying members. If you think about it, this is actually a really good thing.

JAULPORDAN · 12-02-14 06:00:06

I don't know -- it seems to me that after the first little 'shock' of recognition there, of a string you've seen in women before, you accept it, get used to it, and end up happily focusing on all the fine things going on 'around' it...

troyforyou · 13-02-14 06:47:58

Why shock? Women menstruate, you know. I consider these videos with them as bonuses. "Here I am. This is real, guys."

Can we get back to EllaBella? She is so beautiful!

nazgard · 13-02-14 09:57:58

troyforyou wrote:

Why shock? Women menstruate, you know. I consider these videos with them as bonuses. "Here I am. This is real, guys."
Can we get back to EllaBella? She is so beautiful!

I agree 100% EllaBella rocks

WLV612 · 13-02-14 18:00:21

artist_charlotte_v wrote:

charlie141r42 wrote:
...In fact a lot of the recent postings recently seem to be taking the site in a direction, when compared to older postings, have not appeaedl to me, and have me considering ending my membership.
Can you elaborate on this? I feel the latest content is more beautiful and exciting than ever!

I agree. What I'm seeing now here as opposed to what was on the site before I joined is even better. Not really better but the already high standards have become even higher. More color, more expression, more of everything that makes this the premiere adult content site available. There is a staggering number of adult/porn content sites on the 'net, far more than I'd have ever dreamed existed and most of what's out there is dull, predictable, highly scripted and not worth bothering with. There are some that have something to offer but it's limited to perhaps 1 in 10 offerings that hold my interest.
Everyone has different likes, dislikes and not everyone will be thrilled by each contribution here or anywhere for that matter. IFM makes every reasonable effort to respond to the input of the membership, to give us members something a bit more for our membership. Members come and go, that's a given but IFM has remained consistent to their standards and only gotten better. I've viewed such offerings as Kit Kat's and Jane_E's video diaries and been totally lost in what I've seen, heard and learned. If there's better out there, let me know when you find it.

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WLV612 · 13-02-14 19:10:19

viva wrote:

I hope that we continue to push those arbitrary porno boundaries for a long time to come. Around here, women bleed, or don't, they have body hair, or they don't, they cry, or they don't, they scream out when they come, or they don't, they introduce themselves and smile for the camera - or they don't! They're skinny or they're not, redheaded or not, stretchmarks or not, tummy rumbles, bum scratches, big yawns, etc etc. In fact, they are surprisingly, just like... actual women. because they are. Actual women.
Thanks for enjoying what you've enjoyed, and it's our hope that you like what we produce in the future - if not all of it, I'm sure there are many videos which would and do suit your taste. However, please don't try to throw your consumer privilege around and assume it'll have clout here. We are about doing what we do as honestly as possible, and part of that means not bending to the whims of our paying members. If you think about it, this is actually a really good thing.

That's why you're the writer and I'm not. Also a really good thing.

charlie141r42 · 15-02-14 15:20:57

Just a few points I`d like to make.
I was of the opinion that the forum here was, like other sites, both a way to interact with other members, and for management to gauge the view of their subscribers. While I have no problem whatsoever with people having negative views to my own, I find it a bit much to have comments negated by management, who from the tone of her posting I`m assuming Viva is.
As to here comment re throwing my consumer privileges around and assuming they`ll have rights, I wouldn`t look on paid membership of a site as a privilege, and for all the talk of pushing boundaries, this is a commercially operated enterprise, and having been in business myself, a business i might add I ran successfully enough to retire at 45, I feel I may know a bit about running a commercial business.
While i wouldn`t be a firm believer in the old adage yhat the customer is always right, i am a believer that the customer is always the customer, and to denigate there views is one of the fastest ways to loose a business.
As a by the way, I must say i found the last few videos posted as beautiful, but with the management attitude expressed by Viva, I`m taking her advice and cancelling my membership. Which I may add is not that particulary easy.

Monotreme · 16-02-14 06:00:33

Charlie, most trolls stick around to see how much turmoil they've caused, so I assume you're reading this. Even if you're not, I'll say it for the benefit of the wonderful people of Feck.

As you can see from my info at left, I've been paying Feck my hard-earned money continuously since May 2007. In that time, I've found content that I enjoyed and some that I didn't, but it was always of high quality and most of all was contributor-inspired content, that taught me something about the artistic process of those who choose to make this site what it is. I love this place and it's a big part of my life.

I like it that way. I've been here about 20 times as long as you. So if you don't like it, then you can go pound sand.

Monotreme · 16-02-14 06:26:43

Oh, and Troy is right. Ellabella is gorgeous.

richard · 16-02-14 14:03:53

Whoa, ease up peeps! I don't think Charlie's a troll, the forum is here for opinions, and he's perfectly entitled to express his. But I would say to him that we've been shooting women on their period since the site started - I can't remember when the first tampon string appeared but I'm sure it was within the first few months. I know not everyone enjoys seeing that, but in the big picture of the content we produce, it's not much. We assume that customers who don't like it will just tune in tomorrow, when they'll see something different. It's not part of a trend, or new direction or grand plan, it's just business as usual. We like to have a bit of everything, just like life, and I'd be surrpised if you, or any other customer, would leave the site because one or two videos (out of about 25 in the month) disappointed them. I think Viva was unnecessarily harsh - I didn't hear any expectation from Charlie that his opinion should change our tune and his post was a good opportunity for us to verbalise our philosophy, as it isn't actually written anywhere on the site other than in pieces on this Forum.

Monotreme · 16-02-14 19:02:39

I see that you are right, Richard. My apologies.

charlie141r42 · 16-02-14 22:41:42

Monotreme, thank for the apology (at least I`m taking it as such), if not, no problem. If life ever became so disinteresting for me to even dream of trolling I would hope someone takes me out of my misery and shoots me.
Richard, glad to see that someone on the management team here looks on my understanding of forums as i do and have stated earlier. That they are a means for subscribers to interact, and for management to gauge the views of said suscribers. If in that process other subscribers express opinion critical of my own, as long as they don`t become personal, in which case I`d simply ignore them, I would never have any problem with that. To paraphrase Viva, to me, that, as subscriber,s is their consumer privilege.
What I did find unacceptable, was as a member of management, Viva`s, (for want of a better term), F... U. attitude. For me it just left a bad taste regarding the site. That said, I dont feel there`s anything further to be said regarding the matter.

aven frey · 17-02-14 01:38:30

Viva isn't management, she is a staff member and she is also a contributor. Like Ellabella she is also a human being sharing something incredibly and unusually intimate. Whatever your preferences for videos it's unlikely they would be as real and as personal as they are now if we the staff at Feck were not as protective of our contributors as Viva was in her original polite and detailed response to you Charlie. She was gently trying to explain that for this site to be what it is the usual rules of consumer privilege need to be malleable because like I said, you're dealing with human beings sharing intimate and personal things. Viva also does this regularly on the forums as well as in contributions.

This forum is not just a place for subscribers to interact with each other but a place for them to interact with the contributors, and many come to interact directly with Viva. She will disappear if this space becomes hostile and these forums will be the lesser for it. You can confir with other subscribers such as WLV, Troy, Jaulpordan and Monotreme if you don't believe me.

viva · 17-02-14 02:59:01

There is an old thread which I find salient to this discussion, which recurs every so often around here.

The question posed in this thread is,

"Where does my criticism of videos belong, constructive or otherwise?"

It was asked because the curious party was aware of the presence of contributors here on this forum, and their (completely normal) sensitivity to comments which could be construed as negative.

It was asked because we here at IFM have a reputation for protecting our contributors from offhand comments which could have potential to wound them right where it hurts most - just when they have been asked to bare all, and gathered the courage to do so, and when they have been reassured that they were doing so in a supportive, respectful and safe space.

I care more about their feelings than I do about those of the members. I care very much about their feelings.

Ellabella received a site login when her shoot went up, and when she comes to her appreciation thread, I want her to be thrilled with the comments she finds. Not 'well I never!'-ed for shooting on her period, and representing one of "a lot of the recent postings [which] have not appeaedl to me, and have me considering ending my membership."

That said, I think members have the right to express criticism and disapproval, absolutely. And there is an appropriate communication venue for such things.

richard wrote:

The appropriate place would be the IFM general email form on the About page.

The forum is not "both a way to interact with other members, and for management to gauge the view of their subscribers."

Rather, the forum is a place for contributors and members to interact. As such, feel free to discuss and criticize technical aspects of videos, personal views of sex and sexuality, and everything else under the sun.

But if you must say something critical about contributors' bodies, methods, actions or lack thereof, please, out of respect for the intimate and vulnerable moments shared here, express it privately. That way we can address your concerns without anyone feeling hurt or being made uncomfortable.

Thanks everyone, and thanks Ellabella for unwittingly stimulating this important discussion topic! You are a great human being.

I'll just leave this old thing here:

http://forum.ifeelmyself.com/forum/view … hp?id=5789

richard · 17-02-14 05:55:43

aven frey wrote:

This forum is not just a place for subscribers to interact with each other but a place for them to interact with the contributors, and many come to interact directly with Viva. She will disappear if this space becomes hostile and these forums will be the lesser for it. You can confir with other subscribers such as WLV, Troy, Jaulpordan and Monotreme if you don't believe me.

I didn't see anything remotely hostile in Charlie's post - if there was any hostility I think it's fair to say it was directed at Charlie.

richard · 17-02-14 06:00:38

viva wrote:

There is an old thread which I find salient to this discussion, which recurs every so often around here.
The question posed in this thread is,
"Where does my criticism of videos belong, constructive or otherwise?"

I didn't see any criticism. His first post was of surprise, with no hint of which way he took it. For someone new to the site, I don't see anything at all wrong with that. So in a follow up he reveals it's not to his personal taste, which I'm sure even Ellabella wouldn't have a problem with, since there's no judgement of her at all.

nazgard · 17-02-14 07:44:00

In general, when some random guy acts "surprised" or "shocked" about typical mundane stuff on a internet forum it first comes off to me as "this guy thinks he's entitled to explanation to something that needs no explaining and probably venting." When someones "surprise" comes off as threatening it is because of their entitled tone and ego. I hate egos. Maybe I misread the tone.

After that mutual understanding can undo this and we might be reaching that point. Hopefully Charlie stays around

Personally I use this forum to access new information and give information I feel is valid. I am not here to just participate although I like to do that too sometimes as well.

I praise artists rarely because I want my praise to mean something sincerely and I do not write as much as other members because it takes me time to write what I want. Since I started my membership here I have come more eager to experience being part of this work to the point of trying camming online myself and so I have compassion and attempt to understand.

I will leave with this

the public voice of women

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JAULPORDAN · 17-02-14 09:32:42

With regard to Troy's shock at 'shock', allow me to say the quotation marks were deliberate -- I didn't really experience shock but kind of anticipated that some might; and I guess some did. My reaction was more "Oh, that must be...and by golly it is!" To say I found it cute might be going too far, but it had (for me) an endearing, homey feeling -- certainly nothing that would interfere with enjoyment (here or in person). As another contributor observed, it served to remind us of the reality of encountering a real woman -- what could be wrong with that? When I was very young I found it hard to imagine that an angelic woman would also have to excrete. But she does! -- and in at least one more way than we men. Blood is involved, and if it weren't she wouldn't be a real (young) woman. So let's (deeply) accept this part of nature, too, and move on to the real juice (pun not quite deliberate...) of the erotic (for which we all come here). [It was, after all, not as if we were treated to a bowel movement -- and indeed menstruation does not pertain to digestion (in which people of every sex share), but is uniquely related to reproduction and that exclusively feminine (and miraculous) process of childbirth (i.e., to the very creation of life)! There was apparently a Latin proverb, 'Inter urinas et faeces nascimur' (we are born between urine and feces) -- even that, too, folks , is life;
& helps ta keep ya humble.]

Monotreme · 17-02-14 22:16:39

JAULPORDAN wrote:

Blood is involved, and if it weren't she wouldn't be a real (young) woman. So let's (deeply) accept this part of nature, too, and move on to the real juice (pun not quite deliberate...) of the erotic (for which we all come here). [It was, after all, not as if we were treated to a bowel movement -- and indeed menstruation does not pertain to digestion (in which people of every sex share), but is uniquely related to reproduction and that exclusively feminine (and miraculous) process of childbirth (i.e., to the very creation of life)! There was apparently a Latin proverb, 'Inter urinas et faeces nascimur' (we are born between urine and feces) -- even that, too, folks , is life;
& helps ta keep ya humble.]

And I thank my lucky stars I belong to a species that does not have a cloaca. Oh wait...

WLV612 · 18-02-14 00:21:05

Just wondering if the title of this topic can be changed so this isn't inextricably linked to a charming contributor and her video? Just sayin'.....

Laney · 18-02-14 00:55:17

I agree WLV, there are a lot of good things to be said about Ellabella and her thread should reflect that. Though we don't know how Ellabella feels about this, I know that I would be feeling pretty embarrassed right now if someone had started a thread to discuss an aspect of one of my shoots that didn't appeal to them, especially if it was my first shoot.

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