Orange tint?

rollingstone · 08-09-13 23:18:55

Anyone else wondering why so many recent videos have a decidedly orange tint?

aven frey · 09-09-13 07:15:16

hmm, I don't think that they do. I'm certainly not giving them an orange tint. You might be seeing the deep saturation of colour that the 5D cameras produce. We often use these for features and home mades (Klementines recent home made would be an example) and I do a lot of things to the EX1's (the other camera we use) to make them look similar. No orange tint though.

WLV612 · 09-09-13 10:56:19

rollingstone wrote:

Anyone else wondering why so many recent videos have a decidedly orange tint?

There's a lot of color in the vids than say, a year and a half ago but no orange tint I can recall. Example?

rollingstone · 09-09-13 22:20:12

Some more than others, and not every one I've seen:
Anticipated
Australian Sex Party
Date Night
Disarray
Diversions
Good Publicity
Good Use
High Score

WLV612 · 10-09-13 00:30:48

Okay, I see what you mean now. Never noticed before. I assumed it was just the ambient light sources and may well be. It's not all the way through the vid on my computer, only noticeable in spots. Not an expert but I would chalk it up to the saturation level as aven mentions. I don't actually see an orange, just a different lighting than studio shoots.

aven frey · 10-09-13 08:33:15

only a few of those have been shot with the 5D. Mostly it's just the white balance Richard is setting on the cameras. He likes a bit of that kinda hue. If I were to take that colour out I'd have to degrade the footage some and I kinda don't mind it anyway though if I got my way you'd all be complaining about how pale everyone looked! Does it bother you Rollingstone?

rollingstone · 11-09-13 01:27:00

Unless there are a lot of candlelit scenes, with the candles out of sight, I can't see it simply being a case of ambient light. It's too frequent. It does, indeed, seem to be a preference of the photographer. And I'd definitely have to say it does stand out to me. A bother? It doesn't exactly make me cringe, but I do find myself wrinkling my face when I see it. So I guess it does bother me some. I'm well aware that making the models comfortable is important, and lighting is a part of it. I just don't understand the frequency of the orange tint. I usually just wind up re-encoding the scenes as I've re-done with dozens and dozens of IFM videos over the years. (This isn't my first go-round on the site).

Last edited by rollingstone (11-09-13 01:27:46)

WLV612 · 11-09-13 13:34:54

If you've been able to work around the issue by re-encoding, something you've done many times over the years, I assume you are able to tailor the contributions in other areas beside a tint. correct?
I ask because while I personally find the cinematography on IFM to be decidedly more artistic than on any other adult content site where the content seems mass produced and poorly executed, I've always wondered if the older videos could be redone to enhance the clarity. I know it wouldn't be cost effective to redo everything pre-HD there are certain videos I'd love to see in HD quality. Not being an expert in the field of digital content enhancement, I'm not sure as to how difficult the project would be. I know a great deal of time, money and effort goes into upgrading a film such as the silent classic, "Wings", just curious as to how difficult it would be to upgrade say, IFM's, "Closet Case", a personal favorite.
Ill bow out of this topic with this last thought, I think the work that goes into each IFM offering produces an end product that is as artistically appealing as the content is compelling.

rollingstone · 11-09-13 20:42:22

WLV612 wrote:

...I assume you are able to tailor the contributions in other areas beside a tint. correct?...I've always wondered if the older videos could be redone to enhance the clarity.

I've managed to sharpen old video some but nothing to make it look all that much cleaner. Considering some of the work most of us have seen in the remastering of the classics in mainstream cinema, it's obvious that there are people with far better skills than I have. They also have access to high dollar equipment and software. But, for the most part (and borrowing a phrase often used by sound studios), it's a case of, "Shit in, shit out". All that means is, the better the master you have to work with, the better the end product. State-of-the-art technology has obviously overcome that barrier, but I don't have access to it.

WLV612 wrote:

...I personally find the cinematography on IFM to be decidedly more artistic than on any other adult content site where the content seems mass produced and poorly executed...

I don't disagree with that at all. There are very few sites that appeal to me anymore.

WLV612 wrote:

...just curious as to how difficult it would be to upgrade say, IFM's, "Closet Case", a personal favorite.

Believe me - There are dozens and dozens of pre-HD IFM videos that I'd love to see in high def!

WLV612 wrote:

...I think the work that goes into each IFM offering produces an end product that is as artistically appealing as the content is compelling.

Again - I don't disagree. But, then again, nothing is perfect and I have to question what I see as a trend in the lighting used by the photographer(s) on this site.

WLV612 · 12-09-13 00:11:51

rollingstone,
Thanks for all the feedback. Indeed the top-end technology to remaster or "clean up" audio or video media can preform incredible results. Another stunning example is the remastered video, "Irish Tour 1974" a documentary on that tour by the late Rory Gallagher. It would be a bit of a stretch to think IFM would or could take any or all of their old vids and apply the time and resources to such an undertaking.
I've been really interested to follow this topic as I have a lot of interest in all the aspects of an IFM work.
Yeah, I'm hear for the same reason as other members, but like I appreciate a decent single malt over a pint of "Mad Dog", I enjoy what IFM delivers with what I view as an increasingly intriguing and often surprising amount of style and panache.
As I mentioned earlier, there has been a lot of bold use of color in the last year or so and I enjoy that a great deal. A video diary such as the last by Nio is off the chart in no small part due to the that use of color.
There's nothing wrong with offerings from more main stream sites and they have their place. I'm not downing anyone's personal proclivities, and more than one IFM contributor does work for some of those sites. The majority of main stream sites just don't offer a lot of variation on any one theme. IFM seeks to add more flavor, more excitement and more fantasy in their works. And perhaps the occasional tint......

aven frey · 12-09-13 01:54:20

The earlier videos are shot in standard def which is 720 by 576 compared to high definition which is 1920 by 1080 so even if they were re-encoded they'd show only a mild improvement, if any. The later standard def videos were release full size and the earlier ones at 640 so the extra 80 pixels probably wouldn't be worth the hundreds of hours it would take to re-release them.

Remastering old films happens because they're shot on film. 35mm is beautiful and wonderful but incredibly expensive and incredibly bad for the environment. It's not what people use these days to make the porno. It's kinda a shame because I guarantee that if it cost 2 grand in film stock to make a 5 minute scene there wouldn't be so many god awful, badly lit, boring 5 minute porno scenes clogging up our head space! We'd also look infinitely more attractive because film is infinitely more flattering. Golden years etc.

aven frey · 12-09-13 01:59:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFZ8qxmjF4

Here's a short about remastering 'The Wizard of OZ' if you guys are interested.

Last edited by aven frey (12-09-13 02:02:07)

richard · 12-09-13 02:00:55

I dont' think 35mm has even been used make porn, except maybe a few big budget features like 'deep throat' (and I haven't checked, it's just conjecture on my part). A lot of early porn was shot on 8mm but most of it, I imagine, on 16mm. Even then, if it's not grainy it can transfer quite well - not to hi-def, but to high pixel count anyway, and look pretty good. Especially if it was shot on super 16.

I sometimes push the white balance to enhance skin tones, but I agree it doesn't always make an improvement.

aven frey · 12-09-13 02:14:34

In the 60's 16mm was the norm but in the 70's it was pretty common for porno to be shot on 35mm. I dunno about digitising 16mm but I do know it looks terribly inferior in a cinema.

WLV612 · 12-09-13 12:21:48

I knew 35 mm was the industry standard back when film making was in it's, "Golden Age" and then many films were transferred to 16 mm for the cost reasons when a film was mass released. I also knew it was very expensive.
Not being really knowledgeable about digital media manipulation, it was just a passing thought regarding some of the pre-HD work. All the information is interesting though and I have a fascination with the remastering of some of the very old classic films such as The Wizard of Oz, so thanks for that link.
Here's a Youtube clip on the remastering of the silent classic, "Wings" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6Byr77PTg. The film was rewritten to include the biggest film star of the time, Clara Bow and that change netted the first Academy Award for Wings. Clara, along with Bessie Love and of course, Louise Brooks were the leading female actresses and sex symbols of the time and they still have millions of fans world wide and still have a powerful sexual presence.

#1 08-09-13 23:18:55

Orange tint?

#2 09-09-13 07:15:16

Re: Orange tint?

#3 09-09-13 10:56:19

Re: Orange tint?

#4 09-09-13 22:20:12

Re: Orange tint?

#5 10-09-13 00:30:48

Re: Orange tint?

#6 10-09-13 08:33:15

Re: Orange tint?

#7 11-09-13 01:27:00

Re: Orange tint?

#8 11-09-13 13:34:54

Re: Orange tint?

#9 11-09-13 20:42:22

Re: Orange tint?

#10 12-09-13 00:11:51

Re: Orange tint?

#11 12-09-13 01:54:20

Re: Orange tint?

#12 12-09-13 01:59:13

Re: Orange tint?

#13 12-09-13 02:00:55

Re: Orange tint?

#14 12-09-13 02:14:34

Re: Orange tint?

#15 12-09-13 12:21:48

Re: Orange tint?

Board footer