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#1 02-10-06 07:37:20

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You Be The Producer

I've mentioned in a few posts that I rarely look at traditional porn these days, since I've discovered BA and IFM. Even so, I do occasionally peek into my local adult store, and I note that there seems to be something for every imaginable kink: Want left-handed redheaded amputees with glasses doing interracial anal? Middle of Aisle 7, top row! wink

Or do they cover every imaginable kink? Suppose you were given a budget, crew, and a hat with "Producer" stenciled on it, and were told to go produce the one bit of adult entertainment that you want to see, and that isn't already available at your friendly local pornshop (or on the web). Just as a conversation exercise, tell us what your project would look like. (BTW, there are some categories of stuff you can't get at your local pornshop for a good reason! I'm sure it goes without saying in this crowd, but let's keep our imaginary projects legal and free of nonconsensual violence, shall we?)

I'll start with one example of what I mean:

I've mentioned elsewhere that one of my kinks is pregnant women. Well, of course, there's no shortage of pregnant porn -- in fact, there are several long-running series, at least one of which is produced and directed by a woman -- but I have in mind a variation on the theme. I'd like to give a couple who was trying to get pregnant a camera and have them film every single instance of intercourse 'til they succeeded. With some careful timing and recordkeeping, and a little bit of luck, it should be able to pinpoint the specific session of lovemaking that resulted in conception. So my fantasy DVD would include that one golden session, several sex scenes between the couple taped at progressive stages of the pregnancy, and the very first time they make love after the birth, maybe with some lactation play as well. I honestly have no clear idea why this concept seems so hot to me, but it does, and I've never seen anything like it on the market.

Your turn...

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#2 02-10-06 14:26:27

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This seems like a fun idea though I'm not particuarly original

I’d love to see something in the style of Henry Miller’s novels. Not much plot but a film that drifted from scene to scene with its protagonist almost as a dream (no fades to white though). Moving from piano lessons in New York to filthy bed-sits in Paris occasionally stopping for Pernod. Perving on women while driving past only to pick them up and fuck them in an ally. Even him just waking up and masturbating. A film that would follow the sleazy sexual escapades of a man like Miller filmed with that dingy aesthetic of yellows, greens and greys with the occasional glimpse of pink for contrast. With a camera like Robert Altman’s that floats over the scene never resting.

Alternately much more specific and what I would like to watch right now would be a girl having just finished a shower. Her ass is already bright red from the heat of the water. She steps out only to be grabbed violently turned around, arms pulled up and handcuffed to the shower rail. She has to balance on her tiptoes so not to put strain on her shoulders. Wrapping her wet hair around her throat he pulls hard choking her. Her head tilting back he biters her shoulder then moves onto her nipples biting hard leaving bruised purple dents. Soon he’s moved down to cunt biting and licking all the way. He starts licking her while shoving two fingers into her cunt and then a third hastily thrusting them in and out. He slips one of his moist fingers up her ass while moving his tongue down her lips holding her ass in place with his free hand, the nails digging in and pressing the skin so it turns white. The handcuffs are beginning to cut into her wrists as she’s letting them support her weight. He forces more fingers up her ass using her wetness and his saliva as lube…. Hmm I’m starting to wish I had a shower rail.

That’s it for now I’ve distracted myself too much I’m meant to be writing a grant application right now.

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#3 03-10-06 01:29:50

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I love this question. I hope it doesn't take me as long to respond to this one as it has to other of your great threads, dauphin! Meanwhile, ::whisper:: hey, Mods! Over here! Wouldn't this be a GREAT thread to feature on the front page?


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#4 03-10-06 04:59:37

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Cate wrote:

That’s it for now I’ve distracted myself too much I’m meant to be writing a grant application right now.

Can't you figure a way to work this scenario into your grant? wink

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#5 03-10-06 23:03:02

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I'm working on a masterpeice idea at the moment involving very short skirts and midgets, theres actually no nudity, I have the parts cast already too, I just need funding smile I did have a point to make about women having much more freedom to express their sexual desires in this context because men have to be careful their not perceived as a threat, but we all know this, I couldn't get away with writing cate's shower fantasy. My fantasies have to be expressed not in public forum, but in private, with someone who likes me and feels totally comfortable.

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#6 04-10-06 05:06:40

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blissed wrote:

I did have a point to make about women having much more freedom to express their sexual desires in this context because men have to be careful their not perceived as a threat, but we all know this, I couldn't get away with writing cate's shower fantasy. My fantasies have to be expressed not in public forum, but in private, with someone who likes me and feels totally comfortable.

Since tossing off my whimsical one-liner to Cate last night, I've been ruminating further about her post, and how different it was from my initial example: Mine was all concept, while hers was very specific, and rich with tactile detail.

For me, it's not about privacy, or about worrying that I'll be perceived as a threat; it's just that my fantasies generally tend more toward the conceptual rather than the visceral. I think I have a pretty good imagination, but it's particular. I can think to myself that it'd be hot to watch a couple making love, and watch them come, and know that in that moment, right then, they conceived a baby... but I couldn't tell you what "they" look like, because I don't have a movie of the scene running in my head. Cate, OTOH, shows us exactly what the bite marks on the nipples look like.

Actually, I think one reason I like looking at real videos so much is that I don't have virtual ones running in my mind, like Cate obviously does. I don't know whether the difference is gender-linked, or if it just means I'm a dork wink... but it interests me.

(PS: Yes, I know that conception doesn't exactly happen at the moment of orgasm... but I just got my Poetic License renewed and I'm taking it out for a spin.)

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#7 04-10-06 09:44:11

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dauphinb2 wrote:

.... but I couldn't tell you what "they" look like, because I don't have a movie of the scene running in my head. Cate, OTOH, shows us exactly what the bite marks on the nipples look like.

Actually, I think one reason I like looking at real videos so much is that I don't have virtual ones running in my mind, like Cate obviously does. I don't know whether the difference is gender-linked, or if it just means I'm a dork wink... but it interests me.

dauphin, I believe you may have a point with your "gender-linked" theory (and no, I don't think you are a dork lol)

I too find it difficult to run a detailed "virtual movie" in my mind, that is, where the scenario is purely a figment of my imagination. Please don't misunderstand me, I can create a scenario, only the images are kind of dreamlike or "blury" (for want of a better word to describe them).

The only "movies" my mind can "playback" where every nuance is minutely detailed, all relate to actual events that have happened during my life. (Thankfully there is a reasonably well stocked "library" for me to choose from! wink)

Now is this just the result of an under-developed imagination or is it gender related? From Cate's post and past experience, I would surmise it to be "gender related".

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#8 04-10-06 11:12:06

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Hmm I didn't think my little fantasy/distraction was all that detailed. I have no idea if it is gender related but I would have personaly put it down to the fact I'm studying fine arts and have a strong visual imagination finding it very easy to develop images in my mind and also that it's the small details that I generally find arousing. Thinking 'a woman handcuffed to a shower rail being eaten out and fingered in the ass' is ok but I prefer to imagine the the sharp tug of a nipple being bitten reinforced with the edges of handcuffs just starting to dig into her wrists as she shifts her weight.

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#9 04-10-06 12:00:40

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Cate wrote:

Hmm I didn't think my little fantasy/distraction was all that detailed. I have no idea if it is gender related but I would have personaly put it down to the fact I'm studying fine arts and have a strong visual imagination finding it very easy to develop images in my mind and also that it's the small details that I generally find arousing. Thinking 'a woman handcuffed to a shower rail being eaten out and fingered in the ass' is ok but I prefer to imagine the the sharp tug of a nipple being bitten reinforced with the edges of handcuffs just starting to dig into her wrists as she shifts her weight.

I understand what you mean Cate.  My mind works like that.  If I am directing and designing ("blocking") a play I can see every movement.  Hear every line.  See every subtle effect of lighting changes in my head as clearly as if I was seeing them happen on stage.  It might have something to do with which side of you brain is the strongest but I'm really not sure.

Unfortunatley as far as this thread is concerned I regret that I have been unable to think of a scenario for an erotic fim I would want to make.  If one comes to me I'll come back to this.

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#10 04-10-06 20:26:28

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Cate wrote:

Alternately much more specific and what I would like to watch right now would be a girl having just finished a shower. Her ass is already bright red from the heat of the water. She steps out only to be grabbed violently turned around, arms pulled up and handcuffed to the shower rail. She has to balance on her tiptoes so not to put strain on her shoulders. Wrapping her wet hair around her throat he pulls hard choking her. Her head tilting back he biters her shoulder then moves onto her nipples biting hard leaving bruised purple dents. Soon he’s moved down to cunt biting and licking all the way. He starts licking her while shoving two fingers into her cunt and then a third hastily thrusting them in and out. He slips one of his moist fingers up her ass while moving his tongue down her lips holding her ass in place with his free hand, the nails digging in and pressing the skin so it turns white. The handcuffs are beginning to cut into her wrists as she’s letting them support her weight. He forces more fingers up her ass using her wetness and his saliva as lube…. Hmm I’m starting to wish I had a shower rail.

Ooer. Thats just a tad heavy for me. I'm more into being delicate and caring and gentle with the fairer sex, even when they are begging me not to be. big_smile

Cheers. Dynamo.


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#11 23-10-06 16:14:41

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Sorry to revive an old thread but I have an essay to avoid.

I’ve been checking out as much free content of a site called Fucking Machines as I can find, If you’re a sensitive soul you might not like their stuff so don’t go searching. I’m completely captivated by their images of women getting off with massive machines but to me they fail seriously in one specific area. Many of the machines are shop bought and essentially uncreative and repetitive. I’d be interested in seeing something along these lines where the women actually constructed the machines. Periodically trying and tweaking them. Working out designs and mechanisms and in the end pulling it all apart to make the next one. Starting with just a pile of raw materials and conventional sex toys. It could even play on the discovery channel.
What appeals to me at the site is women putting themselves in a position where they are seemingly forced to orgasm experiencing intense senations they sy completely sucumb to but it’s all just a bit too controlled by other people suchas the manufacturers. I want to se her give herself up to her own invention that realises her desires that have a physical intensity that she might usually shy away from. Plus power tools and engineering are inherently sexy.

I’m surprised this thread hasn’t had more responses I’m sure many people have imaginations at least as filthy as mine

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#12 23-10-06 16:26:50

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fuckingmachines is a great site.  they are put together by kink.com - you should check out their other sites if you liked that one.  the fact that there are no men saying stupid shit causes its shortcomings to become invisible to me.  but i do think it would be sweet to see some home-made ones.  there's a hardcover coffee table-type book out called "fucking machines," and it's all about diy machines and the folks who make them.  there are lots of big photographs and writing about the people who create them.  some of them even sell them.  very cool.

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#13 23-10-06 19:28:18

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Cate wrote:

Hmm I didn't think my little fantasy/distraction was all that detailed.

Somehow I missed this when you originally posted it.

Yes, I agree: Your scenario wasn't as excrutiatingly detailed as it might have been... but the details you did include were concrete. My scenario, OTOH, was all concept, with no details at all. That's the distinction I was getting at.

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#14 23-10-06 19:34:21

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Cate wrote:

I’ve been checking out as much free content of a site called Fucking Machines as I can find,

Funny you should mention that. One of the very few porn DVDs I've bought recently was on this theme, and very much as you describe the website. I'm betting it's the same people. I agree with you that what I saw was intriguing, but a bit repetitive and unimaginative... not up to the obvious potential of the concept.

Cate wrote:

I’d be interested in seeing something along these lines where the women actually constructed the machines. Periodically trying and tweaking them. Working out designs and mechanisms and in the end pulling it all apart to make the next one. Starting with just a pile of raw materials and conventional sex toys. It could even play on the discovery channel.

I love this idea! a sort of Junkyard Wars - Extreme Edition!

Cate wrote:

I’m surprised this thread hasn’t had more responses I’m sure many people have imaginations at least as filthy as mine

Ditto, me. I thought I'd get all sorts of kinky responses.

EDIT: Doh! When I re-read this on the forum, I found I'd left out several words from my first paragraph, which consequently made no sense whatsoever. If you tried to read it earlier and scratched your head, try again now.

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#15 24-10-06 00:05:51

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dauphinb2 wrote:

I love this idea! a sort of Junkyard Wars - Extreme Edition!

I think we have a winner

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#16 24-10-06 05:51:06

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Gavinrad wrote:
dauphinb2 wrote:

I love this idea! a sort of Junkyard Wars - Extreme Edition!

I think we have a winner

I'm relieved. After I posted that, I was a bit concerned that Junkyard Wars was too obscure a reference.

For those of you who didn't get it, JW was the U.S. version/repackaging of a British show originally called (IIRC) Scrapheap Challenge, in which teams of people competed to build machines -- race cars, boats, submarines, rockets, diving bells, even airplanes -- out of the contents of a typical junkyard, and in the span of a single day. I first discovered the show when they did an episode on rocketry (they eventually did at least two rocketry shows), and fell in love with it.

Not for nothin', but I had such a crush on the original cohost (okay, presenter), Cathy Rogers:

junkyard-wars-1.jpg

(This pic doesn't really do her justice, but there aren't many others to choose from on the web. Strange, because IIRC she was something of a geek goddess in her day)

Wonder if we could recruit her for Extreme Edition??? wink

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#17 24-10-06 06:24:23

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I haven't got a TV but I watched  scrapheap challenge at work in my lunchbreak and I love the trust people placed in that show. I don't wanna seem like a clever dick or anything but to me it seemed quite obvious how to make those shows.

First find a junk yard to set it in.
Then decide what you want to make.
Then either go round yourself or have the teams go round all the scrap businesses and second hand parts adds finding the components that people are likely to need.

Then place the components in amongst the scrap in your yard smile


I'm waiting for the show where they say "and as luck would have it, Doug found the very type of NASA spare fuel tank he was looking for" smile

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#18 24-10-06 06:36:44

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blissed wrote:

First find a junk yard to set it in.
Then decide what you want to make.
Then either go round yourself or have the teams go round all the scrap businesses and second hand parts adds finding the components that people are likely to need.

Then place the components in amongst the scrap in your yard smile

smile, indeed! At very least, I'm sure they pre-surveyed the pile to make sure the projects would be feasible (and that there was enough material to build two of whatever they were building), but that never spoiled the fun for me. (Note that, as I said before, part of the fun was just watching/listening to Cathy!) For some projects, they had to salt the pile: F'instance, for the rocketry challenge(s), they were required by regulatons to use only commercially available hobby rocket motors... which, trust me, are never found lying about in a proper scrapheap!

For Extreme Edition, we would, of course, have to make sure that there were sufficient bits to build a couple of fvcking machines (note how that word changes from an expletive to a descriptive adjective, depending on stress and intonation!); the fun would be in seeing what kind of machines the women built, and how well they worked. Since the finale of each show was a contest, I guess we'd have to recruit a celebrity judge for each episode to try out and rate the machines. Or maybe Cate would want the Judge position in perpetuity? wink

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#19 24-10-06 07:13:49

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Making fucking machines out of scrap!! :) how many dildo's do you find lying around on a scrap heap :) I have a feeling the teams search for their own parts and bring them to the yeard. There then hidden. I think showing the searching process would take too long. The way it's done the show is more self contained and  entertaining. I'm not into mechanics and engines and things but I loved some of the things they did. the best one was turning an icecream van into a dragster and it still played a tune :)

Anyway back to the fucking machines. You couldn't have that on every week people would get bored, it would have to be a fucking machines special :)

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#20 24-10-06 07:43:55

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blissed wrote:

...how many dildo's do you find lying around on a scrap heap :)

The thought of a rusty dildo is disconcerting.

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#21 24-10-06 12:06:57

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dauphinb2 wrote:
Gavinrad wrote:
dauphinb2 wrote:

I love this idea! a sort of Junkyard Wars - Extreme Edition!

I think we have a winner

I'm relieved. After I posted that, I was a bit concerned that Junkyard Wars was too obscure a reference.

For those of you who didn't get it, JW was the U.S. version/repackaging of a British show originally called (IIRC) Scrapheap Challenge, in which teams of people competed to build machines -- race cars, boats, submarines, rockets, diving bells, even airplanes -- out of the contents of a typical junkyard, and in the span of a single day. I first discovered the show when they did an episode on rocketry (they eventually did at least two rocketry shows), and fell in love with it.

Not for nothin', but I had such a crush on the original cohost (okay, presenter), Cathy Rogers:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/junkyard-wars-1.jpg

(This pic doesn't really do her justice, but there aren't many others to choose from on the web. Strange, because IIRC she was something of a geek goddess in her day)

Wonder if we could recruit her for Extreme Edition??? wink

I caught Junkyard Wars every week, back when it used to run on U.S. cable.

As I understand it, Cathy Rogers has always been a bit camera shy.  She wouldn't have ended up being a cohost on the show at all, if she (as the producer) had been able to find anyone else she found she considered suitable.  Ultimately, she just felt she was the best woman woman for the job.

Actually, that would be a great title for a naughty edition of JW: Junkyard Wars: The Best Woman For the Job . . .

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#22 24-10-06 12:52:52

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Just catching up on this thread, and I must say the idea seems to be right up my alley, but I can't for the life of me think of anything that isn't really just vanilla sex presented in a way that would appeal to me specifically. At least ruling out the exploration of sexuality in people who would in one country or another be considered children by the letter of the law (quite aside from the fact that shooting porn with anyone under 18 is illiegal regardless of  the age of consent). So yeah, I'll just keep my dirty fantasies to myself. Although, on that note, the Swedish film Kärlekens språk 2000 explored some of those issues. I assume the actors were all over 18, but the characters weren't necessarily, and that made it all the more intruiging to me. Perhaps because I didn't get to have a sexlife at that age.

Well, if we're allowed to make wishes, as well as propose feasible (somewhat) concepts, I would really like to be able to somehow return to my own first sexual release, i.e. see it as in a film. Just to see what it was actually like, since I can't quite remember myself.

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#23 24-10-06 13:22:30

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Nowaysis wrote:

...Well, if we're allowed to make wishes...I would really like to be able to somehow return to my own first sexual release, i.e. see it as in a film...

Would that film be in the category "short fiction", or "documentary?"

  --dyslexius   :-)

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#24 25-10-06 05:52:38

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dyslexius wrote:

Would that film be in the category "short fiction",

Now, that's just wrong!

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