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#1 31-10-12 01:24:52

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sexy baby

There's this documentary that came out in the Tribeca film festival this year addressing a really relevant and interesting topic, which is how kids growing up in the hyper-sexualised, hyper-public society are coming of age and the changing dynamics of navigating puberty, first times, sex and romance. In general, it also seems to address the general mixing of the worlds - as porn becomes more and more mainstream, are regular women striving to sexualise themselves to match that porno ideal more than ever before?

Check out the trailer - since we can't watch the movie online yet, I'd love to be able to discuss the concepts it will explore. Now my curiosity is piqued.

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#2 31-10-12 06:34:09

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Looks like a pretty fascinating doco.

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#3 01-11-12 22:19:29

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Gynosexual men have to be desirable to androsexual women too. Doesn't look like the other side of the hetro sphere is covered by the film. Which kind of reflects the lack of awareness and sense of importance of female desire in the media that's seen by the young girl in the film. Do we worry if young boys are "hypo" sexualised by going to the gym, I don't think so,  they just get a pat on the back. All this and probably even the movie about her seems to tell her that she and her sexuality is owned by everyone else.

Winifred the 12 year old girl takes up most of the trailer, and there's no mention of what she desires, be interesting if that is explored in the film and if it is, how much time is given to it. She seems to be given a message that the most important thing is that 1st, she is desired. When the 1st part and foundation should be what does she desire, then she can develop her own sexuality rather than have it imposed.

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#4 02-11-12 03:03:25

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I didn't get that the movie was sending that message? I was hoping it's about a girl because this particular girl happens to be fairly articulate - "we're the first generation to have what we have, so there's no one before us that can guide us. we are the pioneers."

What a cool thing for a little kid to say.

And I dont think the movie tells Winifred she should be desired, I think it just watches her while the world tells her that.

But actually maybe you're right.. the way this film seems to concentrate on the effect of increasing sexuality in society on women only is kind of a bit skewed.

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#5 02-11-12 07:33:17

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Fuck.

Just had a wicked post going. Then I pressed a button--whoosh.

Anyhow to sum it up (12:26 am: shower, then sleep time) it seems like an interesting documentary. It could perhaps be commended for attempting to approach sexuality, especially how (hetero) women of different generations might be affected by the spread of a certain image through technology. Who knows, I haven't seen anything but the trailer.

After watching that I found an interview done by Tribeca Fil Festival with directors/producers Jill Bauer & Ronna Gradus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00VQugS0 … ure=relmfu

I found the first bit interesting. Then I started to feel a certain tone, especially in the way a "character" of the film was mentioned. One of the three females that they document who happens to be a pornstar seemed seldom mentioned as a human or woman, usually as the porstar. Is it just me being over-sensitive or does anyone else get that vibe from the interview?

Blissed, I would be interested to hear, for lack of my understanding, how you define gyno and andro from the context of your post. Pardon my ignorance, but brief concept of those words.

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#6 02-11-12 10:50:51

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I use them as an easy way to be inclusive. Gynosexual means a sexual attraction to women and Androsexual means a sexual attraction to men. I preffer them to labels like straight male because they're totally discriptive without gender so inclusive of all genders. You can say many androsexuals love Johnny Depp and it includes everyone who does. or you can say many women love Johnny Depp and casually exclude everyone else who does. or you can say women and then add all the LGTB labels but it's easier to include everyone with the word Androsexual.

Thanks for finding the interview, that was good. The film makers seem nice and I can see why the movies participants agreed to trust them and take part.

What the film shows is porn is coming into the mainstream, which is itself a sexual information vacuum.  Winifred and her friends of both sexes are badly in need of http://www.scarleteen.com/

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#7 05-11-12 04:11:36

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I'll be interested to see the film. Especially because I haven't yet seen (in the tailer or their interview) any wider discussion of the cultural values that drive internet porn and gender roles. It's more of a discussion of how porn shapes gender roles/cultural values.


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