Failure of Feminism

HollyWood · 06-09-12 04:32:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Nw3zyY … re=related

So what do we all think of this?

blissed · 06-09-12 12:13:43

I must admit I didn't watch it all, he was too annoying. But I got the gyst of his point. His problem is his anger means his very good points about men are weapons to cancel out the very good points raised by feminism. So it's all pretty stupid.

Women are oppressed by the staus quo of patriarchy, not by all men. And men aren't drafted into the army because of feminists but by the same staus quo of patriarchy.

Patriarchy tells men what is expected of them and is reflected in memes like this http://123lol.tk/2012/08/25/when-mom-is … with-baby/

and when that expectation is made real they won't get custody.

It's silly to bicker about who is the most oppressed when women clearly have the most disadvantages. And addrtessing those problems doesn't mean you ignore the problems of everyone else. We have to approach the problems with inclusive love not devisive hate.

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HollyWood · 07-09-12 01:38:25

blissed wrote:

addressing those problems doesn't mean you ignore the problems of everyone else. We have to approach the problems with inclusive love not devisive hate.
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So true. He does have a particularly annoying demeanour. If he had been less aggressive, I would have understood where he's coming from in many respects. Even cisgendered, hetero, white, middle-class men have issues which affect gender inequality – such as child custody in divorce proceedings - *WEEPS*, but they tend to be significantly less prolific and dibiliating than the subordination of other groups - so take a backseat for a while, ok?

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artemesia · 08-09-12 17:14:23

Point about patriachy not meaning men, but the status quo.
The status quo of image, status & hierarchy.

I think it's (shudders before uttering) capitalism that the cause of oppression. And maintains that order. But for me, the hardest thing about people talking like that to camera is I feel that they wouldn't go out of their way to listen to your side of the story. And if they disagreed with you they just be heaps defensive. So I switch off.

I am curious to read the The Myth of Male Power. If you scroll you can read in annotated form.
TL/DR: men are victims too

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