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The_West_Wind · 12-10-06 07:48:02

Liandra must be from the same area of England as Terry Pratchett. It's the accent, I think. Their voices sound so similar. See if you can tell:

By now you've heard Liandra, but here is one of Terry telling a dirty joke in Berlin while promoting his book, "Thud!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmlvDkl2Ko4

The_Elfman · 12-10-06 10:23:46

Liandra is from Wimbledon in London I think and Terry Pratchett is from the High Wycombe area of Buckinghamshire. They are roughly in the same part of the country.

bodyhead · 12-10-06 17:03:36

Haven't heard that one for ages! Thanks for reminding me. I'll be using it on my friends!

Siobhan · 12-10-06 22:32:30

that explains everything.

blissed · 12-10-06 23:34:18

Li's accent is found all over England and is derived from the Norman French who conkered all England. Another name for it is posh My accent is only found in the South West country and Cornwall because it's derived from the Wessex Saxon language and Cornish. 2 nations conkered by the Normans and thus until the 1960s people who spoke the accent were regarded as thick and it was disparaged Grrrrrrrrr. I think the sibilant nature of Li's accent is bloody gorgeous and very sexy

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Burlesque · 12-10-06 23:43:31

My accent is only found in Sweden .

Burlesque.

Journeyfan · 12-10-06 23:56:11

blissed wrote:

Li's accent is found all over England and is derived from the Norman French who conkered all England. Another name for it is posh My accent is only found in the South West country and Cornwall because it's derived from the Wessex Saxon language and Cornish. 2 nations conkered by the Normans and thus until the 1960s people who spoke the accent were regarded as thick and it was disparaged Grrrrrrrrr. I think the sibilant nature of Li's accent is bloody gorgeous and very sexy
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That's a lot of "conkering" that went on Blissed

By complete coincidence, I saw on some news programme the other day that the World Conker Championships were taking place this week, but I didn't hear mention of any descendents of "William the Conkerer" taking part

(Sorry Blissed, but I couldn't resist )

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Burlesque · 12-10-06 23:59:11

Journeyfan wrote:

That's a lot of "conkering" that went on Blissed
By complete coincidence, I saw on some news programme the other day that the World Conker Championships were taking place this week, but I didn't hear mention of any decendents of "William the Conkerer" taking part
(Sorry Blissed, but I couldn't resist )

Thanks, Journeyfan! I just couldn't bring myself to do it, but you're far more shameless than I am, it appears, and I like you all the better for it.

Burlesque.

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Journeyfan · 13-10-06 00:06:08

Burlesque wrote:

Journeyfan wrote:
That's a lot of "conkering" that went on Blissed
By complete coincidence, I saw on some news programme the other day that the World Conker Championships were taking place this week, but I didn't hear mention of any descendents of "William the Conkerer" taking part
(Sorry Blissed, but I couldn't resist )
Thanks, Journeyfan! I just couldn't bring myself to do it, but you're far more shameless than I am, it appears, and I like you all the better for it.
Burlesque.

I've no room to talk - I've just noticed that I spelt "hear" as "here"! (now corrected)

Oh and your right, I am totally shameless

Of course Blissed is spot on with the history, just the spelling made me smile

JF

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Burlesque · 13-10-06 00:09:44

Journeyfan wrote:

Of course Blissed is spot on with the history, just the spelling made me smile
JF

It made me laugh my head off. Re-attaching it as we speak.

(I have now corrected your spelling of "hear" in my quote as well; who says Burlesque can't be a nice guy, eh?)

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Journeyfan · 13-10-06 01:23:18

Burlesque wrote:

Journeyfan wrote:
Of course Blissed is spot on with the history, just the spelling made me smile
JF
It made me laugh my head off. Re-attaching it as we speak.
(I have now corrected your spelling of "hear" in my quote as well; who says Burlesque can't be a nice guy, eh?)
Burlesque.

Bloody hell, I also spelt "descendents" without the first "s", what's the saying about people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

I'm putting it all down to being overtired - time for bed I think

(Do hope you succeeded in re-attaching the old noggin, it would be a bit of a bugger if you couldn't )

Goodnight "Burlesque the Nice Guy"

JF

blissed · 13-10-06 02:52:33

Journeyfan wrote:

blissed wrote:
Li's accent is found all over England and is derived from the Norman French who conkered all England. Another name for it is posh My accent is only found in the South West country and Cornwall because it's derived from the Wessex Saxon language and Cornish. 2 nations conkered by the Normans and thus until the 1960s people who spoke the accent were regarded as thick and it was disparaged Grrrrrrrrr. I think the sibilant nature of Li's accent is bloody gorgeous and very sexy
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That's a lot of "conkering" that went on Blissed
By complete coincidence, I saw on some news programme the other day that the World Conker Championships were taking place this week, but I didn't hear mention of any descendents of "William the Conkerer" taking part
(Sorry Blissed, but I couldn't resist )

Ha ha thats OK Journeyfan, I have special needs I should really put that in my profile

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bodyhead · 13-10-06 05:47:54

Really, there are only two S.E. England accents and they are pretty generic - "estuary" (will sound more or less 'cockney' to many people from abroard); and R.P. - "received pronunciation", which is much less posh than it used to be. Liandra and most of the English contributors so far have talked R.P., as do I.
You can mix the two though, if you want to sound cool.

Some of the posters on this board come from Yorkshire, which is up North, somehere near Scandinavia, I believe. As Elkman has said, Spangles talks Yorkshire. Apart from the S.E., Britain still contains about 27,000 accents. It is seriously true that before people started moving about in the 30s and even after, one village dialect could be almost incomprehsible to people from a few miles away.
http://tinyurl.com/ygy9kh

I like the way Tommie speaks.

padraic · 13-10-06 09:02:49

bodyhead wrote:

Apart from the S.E., Britain still contains about 27,000 accents. It is seriously true that before people started moving about in the 30s and even after, one village dialect could be almost incomprehsible to people from a few miles away..

TV and film have also supposedly had a levelling effect on regional accents across the English-speaking world. I've heard that in the UK it's very unusual for a news reader, for example, to have a strong regional accent. And didn't Margaret Thatcher work hard to make her speech more RP?

Burlesque · 13-10-06 09:16:00

Elkman???

Burlesque.

The_Elfman · 13-10-06 11:49:02

Burlesque wrote:

Elkman???

The Iceni always were a fairly primitive bunch Burlesque. Trouble is that Hadrian actually planned to build a second wall to keep them out of civilised Britain but died before work began on it.

richard · 13-10-06 12:19:15

English accents are fascinating. I love meeting new ones and trying to guess where they're from. My partner and I are hopeless 'Shameless' fans, and being english she can follow it but I had to get the DVD's so I can rewind parts and work out what the hell they are on about.

The_Elfman · 13-10-06 12:42:02

To answer TWW's original question below is a map showing the approximate positions of High Wycombe and Wimbledon and their proximity to each other. About 40 miles.

kirejos · 14-10-06 00:49:23

bodyhead wrote:

...and R.P. - "received pronunciation", which is much less posh than it used to be.

I find that my Rust-Belt Great Lakes Region English of the Upper Mid-West (U.S.) is much less posh than it used to be also. Or should I say, less "pAAHHsh" than it used to be

bodyhead wrote:

I like the way Tommie speaks.

Tommy speaks West Coast (probably California) American English.

kirejos

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Burlesque · 14-10-06 00:55:28

Isn't the New England/Boston accent considered rather posh in the States, or am I being confused again?

Burlesque.

kirejos · 14-10-06 01:45:51

Burlesque wrote:

Isn't the New England/Boston accent considered rather posh in the States, or am I being confused again?
Burlesque.

Generally speaking, New England American English is considered to be posh in the sense that it has "educated" overtones. Some would say snobby. A Boston accent is very different from a New England accent, much more urban. More like a New York City accent. I lived in Boston for a few years when I was in college, and didn't get out of the city much (no car). But when I did, I could hear how differently people were speaking in Maine, New Hampshire, and Cape Cod.

Of course, it depends on what kind of value you place on sounding like you come from New England. Many Americans probably wouldn't consider it posh to sound educated at all, not that you have to be from New England to be educated. But if it's posh to be a gun-totin', Bible-thumpin', ignorant conservative (pardon me), then you'd most likely consider it posh to speak like the President of the United States.

America is full of stereotypes, it really doesn't matter where you come from. I'd rather not get into it. It's a real Hornets nest that doesn't need to be agitated, especially right now. Regional differences in the U.S. become EXTREMELY pronounced right before an important election. Let's leave it at that.

kirejos

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Burlesque · 14-10-06 01:49:39

Very interesting and elucidating, Kirejos. Thank you very much!

Burlesque.

blissed · 14-10-06 04:07:00

bodyhead wrote:

I like the way Tommie speaks.

Ooooh I love the way Tommie sings too!!

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bodyhead · 14-10-06 17:04:43

kirejos wrote:

bodyhead wrote:
I like the way Tommie speaks.
Tommy speaks West Coast (probably California) American English.

Yes, that's what confused me, as an utterly ignorant person, because she doesn't sound like any other West Coasters I've met or heard. I have the impression she comes from LA, but maybe she spent some of her childhood somewhere else?

Like she says "'summin'" (with a tiny 't' in there) for something, which I don't think of as West Coast. The way she says 'dancin', with a bit of a twang (??).

I've always been fascinated by accents. For the USA, I think my favourite is that Bwoston one, and a heavy Noo Yawk. Georgia's nice as well.
Canadian ones are generally very nice, and the 'Trailer Park Boys' East Coast one is great.

In the world - Yorkshire, French and Russian/Slav are the massive generalisations I can think of off-hand.

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blissed · 14-10-06 17:12:44

I just though actually Tommie has a similar way of talking to an x of mine from South America. Seems like California has a fair amount of latin influence in the accent?

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