Why they risk it in public?

SethKindra · 10-03-12 12:19:03

Hey guys,

I don't know if it sounds like a dumb question but....
About the girls who go out and rub one out in such risky places, I just wonder why they would want to get off in places where there is the risk of getting caught?

Thanks

Forrest/Seth Kindra

WLV612 · 10-03-12 14:42:58

SethKindra wrote:

Hey guys,
I don't know if it sounds like a dumb question but....
About the girls who go out and rub one out in such risky places, I just wonder why they would want to get off in places where there is the risk of getting caught?
Thanks
Forrest/Seth Kindra

Hardly a dumb question and I think it ratchets up the hot factor to a large extent. For the purposes of IFM, I'm sure glad they do. 'cause it sure ratchets up the hot factor for me!

Nowaysis · 10-03-12 17:46:31

Some people just get off on the risk of getting caught, or knowing that others might see them. There's a wonderful video over on Beautiful Agony with Kesia where she sits I think on a wooded river bank just off a foot path, and tells the viewer how she's more or less visible from the other side of the river (I think), and there's a man there who she thinks has seen her, but she's not sure if he can tell what she's up to. It's clear from her voice, her face and her eyes that this is turning her on immensely.

I can relate personally. I'm not sure I would want to be seen for real, but there's something so thrilling about masturbating in a public place. Maybe it's that it's "forbidden" that makes it a bit more naughty, or maybe it's that it sort of involves other people in your auto-erotic escapades, putting it slightly closer to sex with another person, but still entirely on your own conditions.

So to summarise my thoughts: It's just hot.

WLV612 · 10-03-12 19:09:38

There's that element of voyeurism in many of the IFM vids that puts me on the other river bank, so to speak. So yes, it's sex with the other person calling the shots. There's this element of surrendering control to that other person, to have no input into the sex act, no clue as to what might be next, that I find to be mesmerizing.
I downloaded one today where this implausible situation is the theme. Incredibly attractive gal in a public setting. All I'm able to do is watch. The beauty of that fact is I can concentrate on her actions and responses to her own touch and not be concerned about what I may or may add to the tableau. No pressure, no stress and all the advantages of great sex.
I'm over thinking here. It's just hot. To extend the concept, view Cherry Lips. Now it's off the scale. Not only do I lack control, the fantasy of me being caught is just that much more hot.
It's all good clean, dirty fun and IFM gives the viewer all the operating room they need to enjoy the vids with the option to either view them as filmed or refine or expand them as well.

blissed · 10-03-12 20:30:05

I've never fantasised about risking being caught in a sex act I think because I fantasised about having sex in public in broad view with everyone reacting as they would to a reasonably good busker or just walking by. In fact that was an idea I thought would look good in a movie about the future as a WTF moment of future shock, as 2 people busk their sex on the street, in front of future people, who've seen people do this many times before and drop an electronic coin from their phone into the electronic hat

I think if your having a great relationship with someone it's lovely to go in the park on a summers day and get it on as much as you dare. To show off the joy of being in love really or/and being hot. There was a gay couple obviously in love doing that in the supermarket a few days ago, and it was lovely to see such an expression of sexual love and affection. I think exhibitionism is for many about celebrating their own hotness and doing that here where there's no negative judgement, but instead celebration and appreciation, from so many people, has got to be a really nice experience.

I don't think there's a hardwired reason we don't masturbate or have partner sex in broad view. Other species do because having lots of space around is the safest, rather than hiding where if your jumped the enclosed space gives you the least options for escape.

My hunch is the fable of Adam and Eve comes from a verbal tradition that charts our journey from sex in public to sex in private, perhaps by women inventing agriculture by planting the seeds from the fruit they picked like apples, and picking them from their own trees instead of having to walk to where they naturally grow. With agriculture comes settlements and houses, and migrating north into Germany, France and England life isn't liveable without houses and home fires and apart from a few weeks in the summer public nakedness or sex isn't really practical, so our culture moved away from it. Then abrahamic religions were invented incorporating private sex into their judgements and orders of normally. Be nice to find some proof for this theory apart from the work of Dr. Marija Gimbutas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urYxnI7D1ss

.

Last edited by blissed (10-03-12 20:49:14)

WLV612 · 10-03-12 23:07:28

That's a great post and I've been mulling it over a bit. Had a sideways thought. Masturbation is to sex as Beef Wellington is to raw meat.
Both are refinements of a basic instinct. The sensory receptors and the programmed drives to eat and reproduce are and have been in place for millions of years, however, humans have assured (Perhaps....) their species will survive and food for the most part is not something we need stalk, kill and chomp on to live another day.
Only humans have evolved to the point where we can convert our excess instincts into another use or form. Crude cave drawings became Rembrandt's or War and Peace, fish hauled out of the sea became sushi. Masturbation became a replacement for the need to have sex to reproduce. A man or woman having a wank by themselves, takes care of a biological urge but does nothing to help the species survive.
Basic instincts evolved into art forms.
So, and again, not to hijack your great post but an off shoot, where is the line, if one exists between sex as pornography/art, a social ritual, an expression of emotion, a tool to manipulate, etc.?
Is the content of IFM art for arts sake or expressionist art? Sexual content doesn't really define that clearly. There's a ton of sexual content in the media everywhere, used to generate income. Sex sells, we all know that. However not all sexual content for sale is pornographic. Huge gray area.
All of the above is, I'm sure you've guessed, rhetorical and just random thoughts that bounced out of your great post.

blissed · 11-03-12 01:00:49

Thanks for your compliments WL! You've used a lot of labels like art and porn end refined which mean something a little different to everyone. I try to use labels just for convenience. For me sexual imagery commands kudos and respect whether it has aesthetic merit or not. If it's hot I respect that and the person in the image. But introducing a cool aesthetic shows you care and want to elevate sex to a position of being respected in a society where it's thought to be crude and conflated with disrespect.

French culture seems to allow the notion that sex can interact with intellect and can be diverse and creative and that can be accessible to all and populist. IFM does the same in the midst of an English culture.

.

WLV612 · 11-03-12 13:11:31

blissed wrote:

Thanks for your compliments WL! You've used a lot of labels like art and porn end refined which mean something a little different to everyone. I try to use labels just for convenience. For me sexual imagery commands kudos and respect whether it has aesthetic merit or not. If it's hot I respect that and the person in the image. But introducing a cool aesthetic shows you care and want to elevate sex to a position of being respected in a society where it's thought to be crude and conflated with disrespect.
French culture seems to allow the notion that sex can interact with intellect and can be diverse and creative and that can be accessible to all and populist. IFM does the same in the midst of an English culture.
.

Having worked for so many years in positions where labels are part and parcel with what I did causes me to instinctively try to define most things neatly when some things defy definition.
I would also tend to cull out most anything that lacks aesthetic merit or harmony with my personal vibe.
I know so little about French culture in the sexual aspect, or any aspect for that matter, to agree or disagree but I'll take your word as you appear to be very well versed in any subject you write about.
I really like how you indicate IFM does it's thing amidst an English culture. Underscores IFM's unique qualities.
The world of IFM is part of my idea of a Utopian society where people have elevated that aspect of the society to the level of embracing sexual freedom as an artistic expression while not limiting it to that role alone. Like fine wine ( back to label/definition.) that can be appreciated for it's many unique qualities but can also be simply a beverage.
Returning to the public sex theme, while the freedom to have sex in public unhindered has it's merits, I think the surreptitious element brings it back to the hot aspect, which I enjoy when presented as IFM does.

ranger87 · 11-03-12 14:11:16

Check out Victoria_V (1550) over on the BA site. She actually DOES get caught, (Overkill K0621)

blissed · 11-03-12 22:15:38

WLV612 wrote:

The world of IFM is part of my idea of a Utopian society where people have elevated that aspect of the society to the level of embracing sexual freedom as an artistic expression while not limiting it to that role alone.

That's nice!

If something is undefinable it's nice to make up aname for it. As we do with new forms of music. I think it would be nice to give relationships an abstract name like we do when we form a band. Imagine John Anthony Gillis and Megan White getting together but not to play music. They could call the the entity they form the white stripes. Because the White stripes was a sexual relationship. Like the music was self defined by the name white stripes the relationship can be too.

.

WLV612 · 11-03-12 23:12:18

blissed wrote:

WLV612 wrote:
The world of IFM is part of my idea of a Utopian society where people have elevated that aspect of the society to the level of embracing sexual freedom as an artistic expression while not limiting it to that role alone.
That's nice!
If something is undefinable it's nice to make up aname for it. As we do with new forms of music. I think it would be nice to give relationships an abstract name like we do when we form a band. Imagine John Anthony Gillis and Megan White getting together but not to play music. They could call the the entity they form the white stripes. Because the White stripes was a sexual relationship. Like the music was self defined by the name white stripes the relationship can be too.
.

Exactly! That's just so great. Not an abstract per se, but what, a statement, definition? What ever you want it to be. Grandiose or neat, whatever you want but encompassing everything in your framework.
I used to contemplate Lennon's, "Glass Onion" with the same idea in mind. It's a single entity with many, many layers.
In any given IFM vid, there are different perspectives. The one of the viewer, of the photographer, and of the performer. Each unique and if all goes right, in harmony with the other perspectives.
I love this kind of exchange. Brain food. No right or wrong.
I'll read some of Viva's posts and I'll think, "There's an amazing mind at work there." It's true. Without being linear, she can arrive at a point and get the reader to the same point.

SethKindra · 13-03-12 05:17:49

WOW!!!! Never thought my questions would get that much replies in 48 hours, but thanks all for your extensive answers, very insightful

WLV612 · 13-03-12 12:29:43

It's a good question. Lot's of room for feedback and or speculation.

viva · 14-03-12 00:40:35

Sometimes I wonder why people DON'T risk it in public. Don't we get aroused far from home on a regular basis? I do for sure. In a world without sexual prudishness, going to a quiet place or behind a tree to have an orgasm would be as natural as taking a moment alone for a breather. There are riskier versions of this - masturbating in class, or masturbating on a train. I am guilty of these and I actually think I am being rude when I indulge. It's not kind to the people around you - though I am a real professional stealth ninja, no one would ever know.

I don't often intentionally re-purpose the public spaces for my own sexual landscape - but when I do get to, for IFM and the rare adventure wank, it is super wonderful. Always having orgasms indoors or in predefined places is like being told where you can and can't eat your cake

Also when we do them for IFM it's even better because the locations are always so special and beautiful, and also you feel this bizarre combination of safety and risk. Guy walking his dog down the hill might see you - but you know that you've got folks patrolling the perimeter for you, making sure no one approaches, and so one feels confident that they can "show off" without being in danger of a) being molested or b) being interrupted.

Laney · 05-01-15 02:17:10

Liek Viva said, whenever we shoot in public places we bring people along to keep watch and make sure nobody approaches. I was lucky enough to be given the job of standing watch with a sign saying "Do not Disturb - Bird Filming in Progress" (or something like that) for a shoot with Lena_D and her boyfriend. Though I have to say one eye was on the surroundings and the other was on Lena's skirt.

So don't worry, we make sure everybody has a fun and safe time and nobody gets caught.

Laney · 05-01-15 02:25:06

The law? Pah, who needs that

Laney · 13-02-15 03:05:26

TRACI! You're on the forum! Yaaay!

Last edited by Laney (13-02-15 03:07:59)

#1 10-03-12 12:19:03

Why they risk it in public?

#2 10-03-12 14:42:58

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#3 10-03-12 17:46:31

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#4 10-03-12 19:09:38

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#5 10-03-12 20:30:05

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#6 10-03-12 23:07:28

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#7 11-03-12 01:00:49

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#8 11-03-12 13:11:31

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#9 11-03-12 14:11:16

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#10 11-03-12 22:15:38

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#11 11-03-12 23:12:18

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#12 13-03-12 05:17:49

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#13 13-03-12 12:29:43

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#14 14-03-12 00:40:35

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#15 05-01-15 02:17:10

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#16 05-01-15 02:25:06

Re: Why they risk it in public?

#17 13-02-15 03:05:26

Re: Why they risk it in public?

Board footer