Male masturbation

carstuff1000 · 05-05-11 06:32:09

This question has most probably been asked many times before, but here goes anyway. Do women enjoy watching men masturbate and have duets with other males as much as men enjoy watching females pleasure themselves and others. I have a feeling that men enjoy it more, but I hope I am wrong.

viva · 05-05-11 07:50:50

Carstuff, I cannot for the life of me find it at the moment, but there is a massive thread about interest in a reverse IFM where men are featured... can anyone help me find this thread? the consensus seems to be that people sexually interested in men like seeing them naked and turned on, much like people sexually interested in women like seeing them naked and turned on.

that whole men-are-this, women-are-this-other-thing attempt at pigeonholing gender is generally unsuccessful though, as the larger the group the more impossible it is to generalize accurately about it.

blissed · 05-05-11 11:52:07

I would think quite a few androsexuals get exited watching men come. I always feel I need to back up a statement like that with scientific evidence as if proving that's right is really important. Well I'm gonna put my foot down here and say sex is an art not a science so if there are lots of androsexuals who get excited to see a penis come or just a few, who cares just as who cares how many people like Reggae it doesn't matter. Thats my tangent rant and little argument with myself over ha ha

Pretty much the 1st result I got in a search produced a post I made with all the male masturbation threads together. That was lucky. Can't see why it can't be revisited again though, female desire is interesting and very very hot!

http://forum.ifeelmyself.com/forum/view … 037#p64037

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viva · 06-05-11 01:38:41

One thing which I'm sure has been brought up here before, but is always interesting to reconsider, is the amount of young women who enjoy stories and images about boys lovin boys, both romantic and pornographic and anywhere in between. when I was little I was really into it, mostly in the form of Yaoi which is on the japanese comicbook side of things. In these stories I had relatable gender archetypes presented to me without any actual girls in there to compare myself to and aside from intellectual consideration the sexual tension depicted in these comics is just so fucking sexy. To this day I find gay porn really hot, although it doesn't consume my sexuality like it did when I was 15.

Here is an example of a friend of mine who is in a heterosexual relationship and is the author of some of the hottest and most insightful slash fiction I've ever read.

For me it is a no-brainer that I like the idea of boys coming, because I like pretty much everything a cock can do, I'm wired to associate the sight of male arousal with my own arousal, etc. But I can definitely see where there might be folk who like to have sex with men but simply aren't all that into watching them jerk off, in fact, I am more likely to want to see a video of two men together than one man solo, because I am not the most voyeuristic person in the world and solo masturbation videos are quite the little fly-on-the-wall experience, aren't they?

hyperballad · 06-05-11 02:09:57

I'm reading a really great Yaoi manga atm. It's all teenager-ish and angsty, it's hilarious but still fascinating and honestly really quite hot.

Boys are definitely sexy, sexy creatures. I love watching guys have really tender sex together and masturbating 'normally' and there are some high quality sites, along those lines out there... They are few and far between though!

TZO2K10 · 02-06-11 21:50:53

viva wrote:

Carstuff, I cannot for the life of me find it at the moment, but there is a massive thread about interest in a reverse IFM where men are featured... can anyone help me find this thread? the consensus seems to be that people sexually interested in men like seeing them naked and turned on, much like people sexually interested in women like seeing them naked and turned on.
that whole men-are-this, women-are-this-other-thing attempt at pigeonholing gender is generally unsuccessful though, as the larger the group the more impossible it is to generalize accurately about it.

Yes, you can generalize it, as much as you can generalize a majority of men who would only watch "playboy type" pornographic fare would think that living "plastic dolls" are much more attractive than women who would never concern themselves with the option of plastic surgery, or faking their natural beauty.

I'm amazed at the fear people have of generalizations, (Not you, but others I've encountered/offline) if utilized properly they make a valuable gauge on how a certain topic/issue/problem can be put in proper perspective in order to categorize it and use that information as a starting point for problem solving. Unfortunately, it is consistently misused as justification based on reactionary/biased/hasty decisions made by the impatient/biased/uninformed in order to satisfy their typical Social/Political/Emotional pathology and opinion.

If we were able to put generalization in perspective, it can be used as an excellent tool for determining the right, or even logical choice that's based more on critical thinking, than a simple emotional reaction or bias.

A perfect example:
Of 90% of Italians who reside in a certain section of the city, the chances will be much higher for at least one business establishment that caters to Italian culture will exist, than for the other 10%. (Same with 80/20-60/40)

A bad example:
All Italians work in pizza parlors which are on every street corner.

Unfortunately, the latter is a much more common example that people use when they generalize incorrectly, hence a certain reluctance to even acknowledge it as a legitimate tool for critical thinking by the majority of those who won't.

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viva · 03-06-11 01:56:52

The larger the group, the harder it is to generalize accurately - is what I said. This is pretty much true. Saying all kids who like trucks probably like monster trucks is more likely to be accurate than, "all kids like vehicles."

Saying that men who watch porn replete with boob jobs and peroxide hair and fake tans are more likely to find women who groom themselves thusly more attractive in real life, well that is a huge group of people you're generalizing and my idea given that statement is that it is likely to be incorrect a good amount of the time.

Given the fact that many men do not spend heaps of time on the web searching out alternative or natural pornography, and that the whole fake tan thing is much more prevalent than what we do here, for example, it's equally likely that (a) men take what they can get when it comes to porn, and/or (b) they're just not that fussed.

Porn often has to do with the mirroring effect of the subconscious as well. Therefore it would make sense for men to seek out bottle-blonde blow-up doll style in pornography, but in real life be quite attracted to sensible librarians.

Okay so I'm not saying making generalizations always makes you a bad person, I'm just saying that on a large scale they likely to be so inaccurate as to be unhelpful and occasionally harmful, especially when we're dealing with gender judgements in a sensitive arena such as this one.

Your "perfect example" is based on facts, statistics, and deductive logic, which are all useful for understanding things. But like I said on a large scale it breaks down. Even if 98% of women love playing with yoyos, the other 2% is a hefty number of people which you would be excluding if you were to say, chicks love yoyos.

blissed · 03-06-11 03:09:42

If we're not careful here I think we could be in danger of generalising about generalisaions which in this kind of conversation I think everybody does without exeption.

I love orange people, they're fun.

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xxEPxx · 03-06-11 04:01:43

Sensible librarians. Phwoar

xxEPxx

TZO2K10 · 03-06-11 04:46:14

viva wrote:

The larger the group, the harder it is to generalize accurately - is what I said. This is pretty much true. **Saying all kids who like trucks probably like monster trucks is more likely to be accurate than, "all kids like vehicles."**

**=This is my point as well, except I would take it further by adding: "Most kids who like trucks," because that statement automatically takes some of those same KWLT in consideration that they will still like trucks but don't care for monster trucks, (because maybe they're traditionalists.) ;^) Though, it's still better than blanket statements like "all kids likes vehicles" of which I agree with you.

viva wrote:

Saying that men who watch porn replete with boob jobs and peroxide hair and fake tans are more likely to find women who groom themselves thusly more attractive in real life, well that is a huge group of people you're generalizing and my idea given that statement is that it is likely to be incorrect a good amount of the time.

Not necessarily, my point was it's just like saying that men who watch fake cheesy porn aren't likely to find porn featuring women ~like this site~ on their same level of personal preference of how they measure "Hot". Hell, all you need to see is the horrors of the fashion industry's influence on how women see themselves nowadays! as another example on how generalizations can be measured in order to spot a problem and find a solution ..

Yes I agree that is much more difficult to maintain generalizations once they reach a larger scale, but it can be done, it's just that most don't try!

viva wrote:

Given the fact that many men do not spend heaps of time on the web searching out alternative or natural pornography, and that the whole fake tan thing is much more prevalent than what we do here, for example, it's equally likely that (a) men take what they can get when it comes to porn, and/or (b) they're just not that fussed.
Porn often has to do with the mirroring effect of the subconscious as well. Therefore it would make sense for men to seek out bottle-blonde blow-up doll style in pornography, but in real life be quite attracted to sensible librarians.

Yes, there is something to be said about those types of traits that buck the atypical yet, unfortunately too many men who exhibit traits for hunting down the barbies, (or women who don't stand up for themselves) would not be attracted to sensible librarians, due to the fact that the a large portion of these "alpha males" are not usually attracted to a strong willed personality trait, except maybe for the thrill of dominating a challenging female, but otherwise they're content with the subservient trait.
(Traditional Japanese/Eastern European/Strict Warrior tribes are rife with this, along with the Bad-boy and the woman who accepts the welts and bruises, because he can "Change")

viva wrote:

Okay so I'm not saying making generalizations always makes you a bad person, I'm just saying that on a large scale they likely to be so inaccurate as to be unhelpful and occasionally harmful, especially when we're dealing with gender judgements in a sensitive arena such as this one.

I would agree that the subject can be extremely sensitive, (particularly those who have been victims of adverse situations) but in a less polarizing situation it is usually the person's choice whether to feel offended on differing observations concerning gender. Speaking for myself, I do feel passionate (Hell, even offended) about certain behaviors that stem from incorrect generalizations, but still, it's a choice that I make, unless I want to try and solve a problem concerning that which offends me, then I would have to put aside my feelings so I can reach the proper conclusion with a clear head.
(I was an extremely short fused pile-o-fury at a younger age, so this is a good thing!)

viva wrote:

Your "perfect example" is based on facts, statistics, and deductive logic, which are all useful for understanding things. But like I said on a large scale it breaks down. Even if 98% of women love playing with yoyos, the other 2% is a hefty number of people which you would be excluding if you were to say, chicks love yoyos.

Yes, but most people who misuse generalizations are actually not taking the minority of that equation into consideration when attempting to come to the proper conclusion, if you say a large portion of gender A exhibits a certain behavior you automatically take the remainder of gender A in consideration, your point is valid due to the fact that most people don't take the remainder into consideration, which is the exact reason why generalizations do not work on a large scale.

In my opinion I cannot stress how much you are 100% correct, that when taken to a larger extreme (due to the higher number of variables concerning the subject at hand) scale will most certainly be a major factor in the break down of validity in simple generalization.

I just want to add that it is possible to still utilize this as a problem solving tool, if we are aware of this, and take this in consideration when drawing a conclusion or a base in which to start problem solving.

(BTW: Personally, I always consider the minority as simply the exception to the rule, because the majority shouldn't.) ;^)

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TZO2K10 · 03-06-11 04:48:00

blissed wrote:

If we're not careful here I think we could be in danger of generalising about generalisaions which in this kind of conversation I think everybody does without exeption.

I love orange people, they're fun.
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....And butterflies rule!

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