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#1 23-07-23 11:00:18

Neo4516
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Menstruation gone?

Hey all

I see on the search area we still have Menstruation and I used to have a lot in my favorites now they are gone?

What happened?

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#2 23-07-23 12:23:03

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

The companies that control the credit card interface don't allow it unfortunately.

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#3 23-07-23 21:12:30

Neo4516
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Re: Menstruation gone?

No way to offer a download link?

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#4 29-07-23 08:27:20

Norway_man
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Re: Menstruation gone?

Boundaries for content is a complicated mess.

I heard an interesting podcast (by Kate Linebaugh, and actually from Wall street Journal). They followed the money in the adult industry and ended up that everything depended on the big credit card companies (Visa and Mastercard).

These companies were not totally comfortable with that position and made some very foggy guidelines as to what content they accepted or not. As a result those in between, like the credit card interface companies used by IFM, made their own (stricter and more detailed) rules to be sure they did not overstep the big companies. Then the content creators have to guess where the line actually goes. So today the adult industry are operating with loads of different rule sets which are guesses as to where those you depend on sets the boundaries.

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#5 29-07-23 09:41:25

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

Norway_man wrote:

Boundaries for content is a complicated mess.

I heard an interesting podcast (by Kate Linebaugh, and actually from Wall street Journal). They followed the money in the adult industry and ended up that everything depended on the big credit card companies (Visa and Mastercard).

These companies were not totally comfortable with that position and made some very foggy guidelines as to what content they accepted or not. As a result those in between, like the credit card interface companies used by IFM, made their own (stricter and more detailed) rules to be sure they did not overstep the big companies. Then the content creators have to guess where the line actually goes. So today the adult industry are operating with loads of different rule sets which are guesses as to where those you depend on sets the boundaries.

Exactly what we've experienced.

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#6 29-07-23 12:08:46

pole1cat
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Re: Menstruation gone?

I think there is a cruel irony in the fact that free porn sites can show what they like, while companies like Feck (creating fairly-paid, contributor-controlled, ethical erotica) are prevented from letting their contributors express themselves as they wish.

First pee, then menstruation. My guess is squirting will be next.

Sorry to be a cynic.

polecat

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#7 04-08-23 20:11:01

Hangdog90
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Re: Menstruation gone?

pole1cat wrote:

I think there is a cruel irony in the fact that free porn sites can show what they like, while companies like Feck (creating fairly-paid, contributor-controlled, ethical erotica) are prevented from letting their contributors express themselves as they wish.

First pee, then menstruation. My guess is squirting will be next.

Sorry to be a cynic.

polecat

Here's a link to Kate Linebaugh's article about Onlyfans, mentioned by Norway_man in his excellent post.


https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journa … 8d012dbcea


Best quote from it was "Onlyfans banning sex workers is like Burger King banning burgers."

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#8 05-08-23 00:00:27

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

pole1cat wrote:

I think there is a cruel irony in the fact that free porn sites can show what they like, while companies like Feck (creating fairly-paid, contributor-controlled, ethical erotica) are prevented from letting their contributors express themselves as they wish.

First pee, then menstruation. My guess is squirting will be next.

Sorry to be a cynic.

polecat


In fact the Mindgeek sites (Pornhub, Youporn etc) which account for the vast majority of "free" porn don't have any of this kind of content.

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#9 05-08-23 00:02:37

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

Hangdog90 wrote:

Here's a link to Kate Linebaugh's article about Onlyfans, mentioned by Norway_man in his excellent post.


https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journa … 8d012dbcea


Best quote from it was "Onlyfans banning sex workers is like Burger King banning burgers."

It's interesting how OF have now set their site up so you can't find porn.  Even if you know somebody's nickname, you can't find them.  The only access is via a direct link, as far as I can see.  This way they can be a 'family friendly' platform while also the world's biggest pay porn site.

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#10 05-08-23 02:14:19

Hangdog90
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Re: Menstruation gone?

richard wrote:
Hangdog90 wrote:

Here's a link to Kate Linebaugh's article about Onlyfans, mentioned by Norway_man in his excellent post.


https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-journa … 8d012dbcea


Best quote from it was "Onlyfans banning sex workers is like Burger King banning burgers."

It's interesting how OF have now set their site up so you can't find porn.  Even if you know somebody's nickname, you can't find them.  The only access is via a direct link, as far as I can see.  This way they can be a 'family friendly' platform while also the world's biggest pay porn site.

That's a very interesting observation. I had noticed it from experience a few weeks ago as I was trying to see if a model from the US site FTV Girls ( a small independent run by Rob Simyar) had an OF account. I was stumped that it wasn't searchable.

What most models do nowadays is use Tiktok and Instagram as ways to get attention then an Allmylinks connection. Whoever came up with Allmylinks must be making a sweet amount of money.

Manyvids is an example of a much more searchable database. But you also have to love the brand recognition OF has, when it is even name-dropped in songs by acts like Kim Petras in Slut Pop:

Slut Pop

This is slut pop, whip your dick out
Turn your bitch out, out, out, out-out-out-out
This is slut pop, get your tits out
Do it right now, now, now, now-now-now-now
This is slut pop, whip your dick out
Turn your bitch out, out, out, out-out-out-out
This is slut pop, get your tits out
Do it right now, now, now, now-now-now

Steal your man kind of shit, fuck your dad kind of shit
Take your bitch kind of shit, slap my ass kind of shit
Suck your dick kind of shit, fuck your bitch kind of shit
OnlyFans kind of shit, don't need hands kind of shit

Touch it right here, right now
Touch it right now (touch it right now)
(Taste) taste it right here, right now
Taste it right now (taste it right now)

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#11 06-08-23 11:06:03

pole1cat
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Re: Menstruation gone?

richard wrote:

We still have pee content.

Yes, you do, but the facts remain that one of your payment processors rejected it, and both have rejected menstruation content. I am simply noting a trend.

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#12 29-05-24 06:50:04

AbbyDoll89
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Re: Menstruation gone?

Will menstruation content come back now that the site is no longer paired with Ccbill?

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#13 29-05-24 09:24:00

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

Not for a while.  We are under review by CCBill and don't know whether we have a future with them or not.  Also whether they allow mens and ejaculation is up to the acquiring bank, which is different between EU and US.  We're currently with EU but hoping to get back to CCBill US where the rules are more liberal.  Unfortunately everything takes time. So much time.

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#14 02-06-24 07:15:30

AbbyDoll89
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Re: Menstruation gone?

That’s a shame. And there’s no way to access that content directly from you guys right? Also what do you mean by ejaculation? Like squirting? Or male ejaculation?

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#15 03-06-24 01:40:40

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

AbbyDoll89 wrote:

That’s a shame. And there’s no way to access that content directly from you guys right? Also what do you mean by ejaculation? Like squirting? Or male ejaculation?

There's no way to pay us for access without an acquiring bank.

Ejaculation = female, sometimes called squirting.

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#16 28-06-24 09:31:56

seaofgrey54687
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Re: Menstruation gone?

What about contributors simply shown wearing tampons/pads? So no actual blood is visible, but it is at least evident that the models are still shooting while on their period?

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#17 28-06-24 19:21:53

Hangdog90
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Re: Menstruation gone?

seaofgrey54687 wrote:

What about contributors simply shown wearing tampons/pads? So no actual blood is visible, but it is at least evident that the models are still shooting while on their period?


We had this discussion before, and I listed the scenes where strings etc were visible with no blood.

In fact that was the vast majority tagged with that newly transgressive term - simply strings showing.

I am not sure if any have been restored. Since there is no visible blood, would simply eliminating the tag suffice?


https://ifeelmyself.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23918

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#18 03-07-24 05:16:55

privignus
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Re: Menstruation gone?

At one point Richard was talking about a partnership with Pink & White in the USA and perhaps some of the missing videos will reappear on sites that have worked out a better deal with the credit card processors?  It sounds like some of the banned categories are banned on paysites everywhere but there are still dedicated bondage sites.

Last edited by privignus (03-07-24 05:18:10)


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#19 03-07-24 07:48:29

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

privignus wrote:

At one point Richard was talking about a partnership with Pink & White in the USA and perhaps some of the missing videos will reappear on sites that have worked out a better deal with the credit card processors?  It sounds like some of the banned categories are banned on paysites everywhere but there are still dedicated bondage sites.

It's down to the policies of the individual acquiring banks and we don't have many options for those.

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#20 03-07-24 23:13:51

troyforyou
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Re: Menstruation gone?

Apparently credit card companies like bondage.

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#21 04-07-24 01:19:50

richard
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Re: Menstruation gone?

troyforyou wrote:

Apparently credit card companies like bondage.

It's not that simple.

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