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Hi, I love the site as a fairly new member. Love the facial expressions and body reactions.
Does anyone know if there is something similar for guys? Or should there be - guys masturbate to you know!
Arne
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We do? I had no idea!
Edit: I'll be serious as well. This has been brought up quite a few times over the course of the years this site has been up now. The latest thread is here.
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Let us scatter our clothes to the wind
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guys masturbate to you know!
I think the business model here pretty much counts on that fact!
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It's a lovely feeling and it's good for your health too, to be taken once or twice a day :)
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Ok, then, hands up if you'd pay to watch men masturbate. I'm taking a count to see whether it would really be marketable.
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I'm taking a count to see whether it would really be marketable.
Well, since you're doing a survey...
I've had my say on this before, but to recap: I probably wouldn't watch male solo IFM clips (just as I don't usually watch the male contributors to BA), but (a) I wouldn't object to their presence on the site and (b) I would happily watch male contributors in the context of watching female contributors, even if those joint contributions included male masturbation and orgasm as part of the package. (And I've been positively boring on the subject of wanting to see more boy-girl sex here.)
In short, I'm neither threatened nor disgusted by male sexuality; I'm just not especially interested in watching it, except as a component of female sexuality. Go figure, eh?
More broadly, I've always been of the opinion that it's easy not to watch the stuff you don't want to watch. If IFM started including a few clips I wasn't interested in seeing, it wouldn't "ruin the site" for me or cause me to cancel my subscription. I don't quite "get" people who think that way.
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YES if it's done as tastefully as the women YES from me
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I would if, as Leda said, it is done as tastefully as the women on IFM. I've never found any site (not that I've looked very hard) where men are shown enjoying the sensuality of sex, whether alone or with a partner, which is something you get every time with the women on IFM.
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Someone should really get on to this.
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There did used to be a boys wanking site produced by Kink, but they stopped updating in 2003. Not so pretty - standard Kink backgrounds and very studio-looking - but I guess it's all we have for now. The name could probably use some help...
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There did used to be a boys wanking site produced by Kink, but they stopped updating in 2003. Not so pretty - standard Kink backgrounds and very studio-looking - but I guess it's all we have for now. The name could probably use some help...
Thanks for the link Gala. Will check it out. I agree, though, that the name and the style don't make it sound so enticing. There again, I might be pleasantly surprised!
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I think the general feeling might be: a male wank site could be ghastly, or just possibly it could be erotic and beautiful, if produced with the right attitude. And we'd trust the people behind IFM to get it right more than we'd trust anyone else. So go for it, if you can. But, like you, I fear the market may not really be big enough to justify the work. As in all porn, it's the crappiest sites that probably make the most money.
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Ok, then, hands up if you'd pay to watch men masturbate. I'm taking a count to see whether it would really be marketable.
Good one Gala, count me as one with my hand in the air.
I seem to remember Richard saying in one of the other threads on the subject, that he wouldn't be happy overseeing male content (logically) as his interests lie in the appreciation of female orgasms. Does this mean that one of you ladies will be taking this on within IFM? A good idea, as you have already expressed a certain interest yourself in watching men masturbate and you are already doing a most excellent job with IFM vis à vis presentation of all its content.
I certainly wouldn't mind the site sharing in such a way, and I'm with nihpuad on this - a mixed contributor approach could really work. My lady and I masturbate together, and I know she'd be all excited about male contributors shot with the same sort of appreciation as IFM shows for its ladies, nor is she alone by the responses I have found throughout life from ladies I know, both friends and lovers.
Okay, the guys would contribute under the same criterion, so the scenarios and treatment conceived by them will likely be quite different in tone from the ladies of IFM - but I'd bet that they'll be a world apart from the predominantly gay-male focus of other sites, and you won't know for sure until you get some films to start with.
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The million dollar question is: Who WOULD pay to see a male IFM. I agree that the IFM style is far superior to the back-alley gay orientated ones but how many straight/bi men would pay for this site? Are there enough woman willing to pay for this site to make it profitable and to keep the site from becoming gay dominated since this might bring the audience in conflict with the IFM style? I for one would find it difficult to pay to see men masturbate. This also prevents me from considering doing a BA or a possible IFM male appearance. The thought of mostly gay men watching me is unsettling.
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We had this discussion a while ago and I think someone mentioned that no matter what sex you are, if your unsettled by the thought of people you would find unatractive watching you, your not exhibitionist enough to do it.
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The name could probably use some help...
lmao you're not wrong there haha they must've thought long and hard (excuse the pun) on that one..
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I am new to the site, and I REALLY enjoy watching. I find it very erotic, but I don't feel "dirty" after watching. My wife watched a few times (that I know about) and has learned a few new tricks and positions. She said that she would like to see men masturbate in the same artistic and tasteful way. I too would like to see that. Maybe I could learn a few new things. So keep that in mind and get to work on it.
My wife can pay for that site.
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As a straight guy I personally wouldn't watch, but I know several women who would definitely watch a guy masturbate, particularly real guys since so many women don't respond to mainstream porn styling. Whether it would work as a standalone pay site, I'm not so sure. There are, however, a lot of straight women who enjoy watching men AND women masturbate, and of course the bisexual crowd would obviously seem to prefer both. I think a separate section of this site (or a well integrated partner site) could broaden the viewership here.
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Getting down to the nitty gritty, the problem with a "tasteful" male site is that men produce more than fascinating spasms when they come. If I come several times in one session I am far less likely to spurt on the second or third go, and the volume of my ejaculate is much less. These later orasms can be no less intense, if sexual tension is mantained, and may be what the refined female audience would be able to countenance.
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Gala!
My hand is in the air, too. (my other one, that is.) I would not like to see the site overrun with more horrid gay porn -- there's enough of that around as it is, without any help from IFM -- but a male masturbatory sequence presented in the same respectful manner as the female episodes we now see, would be agreeable.
I would suggest that if a limit of, say, 10% male videos, were in place, the potential market would be satisfied, and the financial basis of the site would not be threatened.
And, I betcha you wouldn't suffer from a lack of contributors. Hell, I might even get interested!
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Ok, then, hands up if you'd pay to watch men masturbate. I'm taking a count to see whether it would really be marketable.
I'm a contributor of this site and would love to see men portrayed in the same caring, sexual, beautiful way as the women are.
I think it would be wonderful to show that guys can be just as erotic and caring when it comes to masturbating as women can.
(i know this because I've had the luck of watching my partner masturbate and love it!)
And would also love to see couples being able to contribute there love making to the site as well.
All to often porn sites portray a raw, cold, aggressive sex scene, rather than the soft, sensual, erotic and sometimes emotional portrayal that sex can be.
And i know it can be as my partner and i often enjoy this ourselves.
I realise that there are people out there who like the usual porn material, but because I'm one of the unusual ones, (as I'm sure most of you are as well or you wouldn't be here) i would definitely love to see this idea come to fruition!
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Chebab, check out 'oral fixation'.
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I hope the badmouthing of gay male porn on this thread stems from its being generally tacky, repetitive and cock-obsessed rather than its being gay. I think if there is going to be a male orgasm component on this site, it would be out of keeping with the IFM ethos to exclude all male-male encounters.
What might work would be to ban fucking (straight or gay) from all 'friends' videos, but to allow any human combination for non-penetrative sex. An emphasis on the person or people involved rather than the hard-on and the 'come shot' could be joyously erotic. Some men can come without touching their cocks; many can come without being erect. And the possibilites of furniture and vehicles are endless.
Maybe a new section or a brother site? We don't want everything mixed up, but this could be worth developing as a parallel sideline. And yes, I'd watch it (though not if the guys looked like me).
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I hope the badmouthing of gay male porn on this thread stems from its being generally tacky, repetitive and cock-obsessed rather than its being gay.
Well, I can't comment on the quality of gay porn because I haven't watched any, but I am one of the guys who's said he probably wouldn't watch videos of men masturbating. It has nothing to do with being anti-gay. I'm about as LGBT-friendly as a straight guy can be, including having donated time and treasure to fight anti-gay measures such as Prop 8 and the attempt in my own state to institute popular referendum largely in hopes of a future Prop 8 style overturning our recent legalization of gay marriage. (Aside: If you're in the U.S. and haven't seen Milk yet, leave the computer immediately and head for the nearest place showing it.)
It's just that I'm not especially turned on by male sexuality, except in the context of female sexuality. (That is, I'm happy enough to look at a naked man, or a hard cock, or a cumshot, as long as there's a woman involved as well. Actually, American comedian Ron White has a very funny bit related to this notion.) It's strictly a matter of what turns me on, not any sense of political or moral disapproval.
I agree with this:
I think if there is going to be a male orgasm component on this site, it would be out of keeping with the IFM ethos to exclude all male-male encounters.
...but not with this:
What might work would be to ban fucking (straight or gay) from all 'friends' videos, but to allow any human combination for non-penetrative sex. An emphasis on the person or people involved rather than the hard-on and the 'come shot' could be joyously erotic.
Above anything else, the central focus of this site has been on orgasm; I don't see how you could make a male equivalent site work if it were squeamish about "the 'come shot'." In a very real sense, this site is all about the female "come shot"; since nobody seems to mind that (even when it gets a bit messy), why should there be any asymmetry WRT men? And while there's never been an obsessive focus on the aroused female genitals, the site doesn't specifically shy away from showing them, either. Here, too, I don't see any reason for a double standard for males.
In short, I don't see why a hard, squirting cock should be viewed as any scarier or grosser than a hot, squirting pussy (which we all know is the polar opposite of scary or gross!)
As for fucking, I'd like to see more of it, not less. Unless I've missed something (and I don't think I have), actual intercourse has only appeared once here in the history of the site. That clip (amusingly titled Oral Fixation) is one of my favorites, and I've often said I'd like to see more of that content here. I know that'll never be the focus of the site, but I'd hate to see it banned outright as some sort of effort to make male contributions more acceptable.
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Er, I don't regard stating a preference to be 'badmouthing of gay male porn' either. That's perfectly reasonable. And your point about fucking is fair enough. Also, I'm not suggesting that male orgasm be concealed – it's just that most porn distorts the male orgasm in various ways, making it aggressive, making it dominate a passive recipient. I'd just like to see the emphasis of IFM – which is very much a whole-person, sensitised emphasis with very limited penetration by anything but fingers – extended to male pleasure. That would be good.
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