#1 27-03-20 03:01:45

perfectlysexy

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Incoming Transmission From The Doctor

In case anyone here who would appreciate this hasn't seen it yet:

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status … 8571211776

_redbird_

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Yasssssss thank you for this!! That show immediately lifts my spirits and as one of the few peeps that is unable to work from home atm, I'm very scared and sad. I hope things change asap. I think I'll get some Doctor Who therapy tonight too .

(Also how had I not seen this yet!?)

_redbird_

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Re: Incoming Transmission From The Doctor

In case anyone here who would appreciate this hasn't seen it yet:

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status … 8571211776

Have you dived into DW yet perfectlysexy? Now is probably the time to do it if you were planning to (plus I need someone to talk to about it, hnnnnnggggh). Should I curate a list for you?

Howland

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First of all Red, your written vocalizations are so cute I can’t stand it. Who could resist that “hnnnnnggggh”?

If it will help with your scaredness and sadness then by all means let’s talk Who! I don’t know about perfectlysexy, but I’ve only seen what I guess we’re calling New Who, from Christopher Eccleston up through Matt Smith (so, a bit behind even there). I’m a bit leery of older Who as what I’ve seen (tiny bits and pieces) looks kind of twee. (Although as someone currently binge-watching Star Trek: Discovery season 2 I should talk, although “goofy” may be a better word there.) Maybe some Doctors/seasons are safer than others? Are there arcs as we now know them, or can one just dive in anywhere?

Also, I know you like Capaldi, so I’ll have to get back to that (once the libraries open again …). I did watch the first Capaldi ep, which has some great bits, like when he’s in the alley with the wino, trying to figure out who he is: “The face is fine, up to the eyebrows, but then it all goes haywire! D’ye see these eyebrows?? They’re attack eyebrows! You could open bottle caps with ‘em! … I’m Scottish! Scot-tish! Oooh, that’s great! I can complain about things!” And I love this bit: “[picking up discarded clothing, as he is in his nightshirt] Not the scarf, looks stupid.” Ha!

Anyway, while I’m not a big fan of the post-Amy Pond “companion,” (Jenna something?), I guess I should watch the rest of that season (8, I think), and I look forward to seeing the new Doctor as well. Do you like her Red?

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Oh my, where to start? I am pretty reluctant to recommend anyone watch classic Who from the very start, as there are so many missing episodes for the first two Doctors, that you have to be a bit of a sadist to want to put yourself through the hell of watching the Who Recons on Youtube (fan-made animations using the surviving audio from the missing eps) and buying all the available DVDs is kind of mental (I have also done that of course). The BBC is very slowly getting through the lost eps and animating them, which is most excellent indeed. If you're massively into New Who and want more, then by all means start from the start, but it's maybe not worth it if you're just a casual viewer.

There is some really great stuff to see in the early episodes and stories though. I personally love the shonky sets and costumes, but I totally understand when people struggle to get past the obvious sets and suspension of disbelief required though. It is also a lot more progressive than I thought it would be - which I suspect was with the help of Verity Lambert who was the producer for the first few years, and a dynamic woman indeed, especially considering she had 1963 England to contend with. I recommend watching An Unearthly Child, which is the first ever episode. The rest of that story is absolute balls though, and one of the weaker DW stories for sure, but definitely check out the first episode. The Sensorites, The Ark, and The Dalek Invasion of Earth are some standout stories of the First Doctor, and are good examples of what Doctor Who "is". The Second Doctor has even more missing eps/stories than the First Doctor, which really sucks because he is my favourite of the two, but some standout stories from him are The Mind Robber (which is easily in my top ten favourite episodes of DW, including new Who), The Macra Terror and War Games.

The 1970's Who is known as the Golden Era of Doctor Who, and I can definitely see why. The show had properly found its footing, was much more confident in what it is, and had established many things within that time that is synonymous with Doctor Who. Things like the sonic screwdriver, the Master, UNIT, the Brigadier, Sarah Jane Smith, and regeneration. A good classic Who jump off point is definitely Jon Pertwee's Third Doctor. Spearhead From Space is an incredibly good story and you can see why Russell T. Davies decided to start New Who with the same enemies (Autons, aka KILLER MANNEQUIIIIINSSSS!!) but really they just "infect" any plastic thing, which means that there's some truly excellently campy shots of the Third Doctor fighting off a phone cord and someone being swallowed by an inflatable chair. Jon Pertwee is my favourite Doctor of classic Who. He's a confident and commanding and extremely handsome dapper man of action, but is also wicked smart and is often shown adjusting or creating gadgets, commandeering various vehicles, while also being an outrageous flirt, primarily with the Brigadier and the Master (I'm not even joking about that, the sexual tension with them is palpable). Season 8 features the Master in every story and is easily one of the best things about this era of Who, although sadly Roger Delgado who played him died just before Jon Pertwee's last season so his incarnation of the Master never got much of a satisfying conclusion, but he is my absolute favourite incarnation of the Master. Season 8 is all great really, but I also recommend The Sea Devils, The Green Death, and The Time Warrior.   

I've only seen Tom Baker's first season as the Fourth Doctor, and while my heart (at this point at least) still belongs with the Third Doctor, I can definitely understand why he's so many people's favourite. I legitimately believe that this guy is an alien. He jumps right into the role and is incredible from the start. It's known that towards the end of his run he had lost his enthusiasm for the role, but his first few seasons are exceptional. My favourite stories of what I've seen so far are Robot (a robot learning the meaning of love and/or mortality is the best story one can tell IMO), The Ark in Space, and Genesis of the Daleks. That last one having arguably the most famous scene from classic Who, where the Fourth Doctor has the opportunity to exterminate the Daleks at their creation and asks "have I the right?" UGH. SUCH EXCELLENT TELEVISION!!

The Twelfth Doctor is indeed my favourite, but his first season is one of the most difficult seasons to get through (and then a few more times in his second season), from a storytelling standpoint (THANKS MOFFAT) and the character of Clara and what Moffat does with her is insufferable. However he also has some of the best episodes DW has ever had. Some standouts are Into the Dalek, The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar, The Zygon Invasion/Inversion, Heaven Sent (which is basically just an hour of Peter Capaldi monologuing, ummm YES PLEASE), Thin Ice, and The Doctor Falls.

I do really love Jodie Whittaker as the Thirteenth Doctor, and her second season is noticeably better than her first. Her character is a bit...uneven in her first season but she's got it pinned down now and is doing a great job. The most recent season also had a few game changers in DW lore, which has made a LOT of people mad, however I really don't mind it and I think it works within the lore. I won't say anything because it really is quite huge, but yeah....ooof! Some excellent Jodie eps are - Rosa, Demons of the Punjab, It Takes You Away, Resolution, Spyfall (DW goes full Bond here), Fugitive of the Judoon, Can you Hear Me?, The Haunting of Villa Diodati, and Ascension of the Cybermen. People often complain that the latest series is too political and heavy handed with its messages (which yeah, it can be at times a tad that way) but Doctor Who has ALWAYS been very political, people these days are very quick to be all up against the SJW's, whichever way they can. People have also criticized it recently for having too many historical episodes, but the whole purpose of Doctor Who in its inception was to educate kids on history and science and EXCUUUUUUUSE me if seeing Alan Cumming play a super camp King James who flirts shamelessly with the Doctor's male companion is something you don't want to see, but I'm all for it. 

I don't know what it's like in the Northern Hemmy for Doctor Who, especially in the US that definitely never got into DW as much as Australia did, but it's on some Netflix (only new series though, at least in Australia) and you can also buy the new series on youtube, either the whole season or individual episodes.

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perfectlysexy

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Re: Incoming Transmission From The Doctor

In case anyone here who would appreciate this hasn't seen it yet:

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status … 8571211776

Have you dived into DW yet perfectlysexy? Now is probably the time to do it if you were planning to (plus I need someone to talk to about it, hnnnnnggggh). Should I curate a list for you?

Yes, I would like a curated list. I can't imagine that will be easy to curate. In my experience with curating tv I have to balance enough background information with getting to better episodes before someone passes. I was pretty happy with my Buffy curation, but I had a good friend to discuss with. That can be helpful. I'm revisiting Star Trek and X-Files curation. Fun stuff! Let me know what you come up with.

Howland

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Thanks R.B.! I should print that out and put it with my TV stuff. The libraries are all closed here for now though, so I won't be getting to that any time soon. I can tell you that here in the Northern, uh, Hemmy they did show DW on TV when I was a kid (I remember Baker's scarf), but most of us kids were either into Star Trek (me) or Star Wars (not me, and still not).

p-sexy, if you want to start a Star Trek thread for us that'd be cool (no pressure).

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I'm star trek. I'm so star trek. pls.